What if you could only assign skills to lemmings facing in one direction?

Started by Clam, December 19, 2010, 09:38:15 PM

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Clam

Since the forum is picking up (http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/winktounge.gif" alt=";P" title="Wink-Tongue" class="smiley" />), I think now's a good time for a new challenge.

Inspired by http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=12.msg3748#msg3748" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">one challenge I saw in the Oh No! More Challenges! thread. Let's imagine your directional select controls get stuck, and you can only assign skills to lemmings facing in one direction. Which levels can you still solve?

I will list which levels are solvable, and in which directions (some levels can be done both ways http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" class="smiley" />), and tag solutions with 100% or glitch as appropriate. "Glitch for 100%" means the level can be completed without glitches, but 100% is achievable only with glitches.

Lemmings

Fun
L: 1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15, 17 (glitch for 100%), 18, 21, 22, 24, 25, 28, 30. Non-100%: 6, 18.
R: All except 3. Non-100%: 6, 18, 28.

Tricky
L: 6, 8, 9 (glitch), 11, 14, 15, 20 (glitch), 21 (glitch), 26, 28. Non-100%: 8, 15, 20, 21.
R: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (glitch), 8, 9 (glitch), 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30. Non-100%: 8, 15, 16, 17, 18, 23, 27.

Taxing
L: 4, 6, 15, 19, 20. Non-100%: 4, 6, 19.
R: 1, 2, 3, 4 (glitch for 100%), 5, 6 (glitch for 100%), 7 (glitch), 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16 (glitch), 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26 (glitch), 27, 29, 30. Non-100%: 7, 16, 18, 19, 27.

Mayhem
L: 2, 4, 23, 26, 28. Non-100%: 2, 4, 26.
R: 1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12 (glitch), 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 (glitch), 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 30. Non-100%: 1, 10, 18, 26.



Oh No! More Lemmings

Tame
Both ways: all 100%

Crazy
L: 1, 2, 9, 11, 16, 19 (glitch). Non-100%: 1, 11, 19.
R: 1 (glitch for 100%), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15 (glitch), 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. Non-100%: 3, 11.

Wild
L: 1, 4, 5, 6, 9. Non-100%: 5.
R: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 11 (glitch), 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19 (glitch for 100%), 20. Non-100%: 5, 11, 12, 13, 15, 18, 20.

Wicked (note: format is 100% instead of non-100%)
L: 1, 8, 17 (glitch for 100%). 100%: 17.
R: 1, 3 (glitch), 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19. 100%: 3, 11, 13, 14, 18.

Havoc
L: 3, 4, 7, 18 (glitch). Non-100%: 7.
R: 1, 6, 7, 10, 11 (glitch), 13, 15. Non-100%: 7, 10, 15.



Holiday Lemmings

Xmas 91
L: 2. (100%)
R: 1. (100%)

Xmas 92
L: 2. (100%)
R: all 100%

Flurry
L: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12. (All 100%)
R: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 (glitch). Non-100%: 16.

Blitz
L: 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 12, 14. 100%: 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 14. Non-100%: 12.
R: All. Non-100%: 12, 15, 16.

Frost
L: 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9. (All 100%)
R: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13 (glitch), 14, 15. Non-100%: 14.

Hail
L: 2, 6, 11. Non-100%: 2, 6.
R: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. Non-100%: 2, 5, 6.



Covox Lemmings

L: 1, 2. (Both 100%)
R: All except 4. (All 100%)



Bonus Levels

L: 1, 5, 8, 10, 13. Non-100%: 1.
R: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16. Non-100%: 6.

Simon

Each listed level without a percentage is 100 percent.

Fun: 1RL, 2R, (3 neither way), 4RL, 5R, 6RL, 7R, 8R (speed mine), 9RL lose 1 (with 100 % for R), 10R, 11R, 12R lose 1, 13R, 14R, 15R, 16R, 17L lose several (maybe also R?), 18RL lose 5, 19R, 20R, 21R, (22 probably neither way), (23 done by Clam), 24RL lose several (with 100 % for R), 25RL (mine away from walls to get through), 26R, (27 neither way), 28L lose 1 (must check for 100 %), (29 neither), 30L.

-- Simon

Adam


Adam

I'm very tired right now, so no doubt I've screwed up here, but I think this is Fun 28L with 100%.

Clam

Tricky: 30R

And here's Tricky 30L (using glitches).



I'm very tired right now, so no doubt I've screwed up here, but I think this is Fun 28L with 100%.

Looks like the first lemming was going right when you assigned the floater. I'm gonna need more evidence before I can call this one solved. http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/laugh.gif" alt=":D" title="Laugh" class="smiley" /> http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/tongue.gif" alt=":P" title="Tongue" class="smiley" />

ccexplore

Fun 9 can be 100% even for L, see attached.  In a similar vein (also attached), L works for Fun 11 and even 100%.

[edit: Fun 30 R 100% added]

More to come later.

Adam


Adam

Another double post, ftw.

Fun 17R - 98% using bashing through steel glitch.

Edit: Fun 17R - 100% using bashing through steel glitch.

chaos_defrost

Each listed level without a percentage is 100 percent.

Fun: 1RL, 2R, (3 neither way), 4RL, 5R, 6RL, 7R, 8R (speed mine), 9RL lose 1 (with 100 % for R), 10R, 11R, 12R lose 1, 13R, 14R, 15R, 16R, 17L lose several (maybe also R?), 18RL lose 5, 19R, 20R, 21R, (22 probably neither way), (23 done by Clam), 24RL lose several (with 100 % for R), 25RL (mine away from walls to get through), 26R, (27 neither way), 28L lose 1 (must check for 100 %), (29 neither), 30L.

-- Simon

17 R is trivial (lose the maximum allowable) - bash right, make 20 right facing lemmings floaters. Boom. 22 might be possible with R using the blockers + bashers only trick in the fewest types of skills challenge. 27 in versions with direct drop R is likely possible.
"こんなげーむにまじになっちゃってどうするの"

~"Beat" Takeshi Kitano

Adam


chaos_defrost

I'll do a preliminary runthrough of Tricky by eyeballing -- these might be improvable.

1) R (100% possible)
2) R (100% required)
3) R (100% maybe?)
4) R (100% possible, build over the arrow structure)
5) R (100% possible)
6) R (100% possible)
7) impossible
http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" class="smiley" /> L (build through the thin layers)
9) guessing impossible, steel glitching?
10) impossible
11) R? It seems feasible...
12) R (100% possible)
13) R I think (steel glitching)
14) R (100% possible)
15) LR (100% obv impossible)
16) R (100% obv impossible)
17) R (why so many bomber timing levels at once?)
18) R (lose 1)
19) impossible
20) R? (I think you might be able to go under the OWW)
21) R (100% possible)
22) R (lose 2)
23) I'm going to guess impossible, but R might be possible.
24) R
25) R
26) R (100% required)
27) impossible
28) LR (100% for both possible)
29) R (100% probably possible)
30) [done]

There's a few that need verification but a lot of them are trivial
"こんなげーむにまじになっちゃってどうするの"

~"Beat" Takeshi Kitano

Clam

http://www.lemmingsforums.com/index.php?topic=433.msg9475#msg9475">Quote from: Clam Spammer on 2010-12-19 15:38:15
I will list which levels are solvable, and in which directions (some levels can be done both ways http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" class="smiley" />), and tag solutions with 100% or glitch as appropriate.

Actually, since we haven't sorted out exactly what constitutes a glitch and what doesn't, maybe we should just forget about glitch solutions?

LemSteven

Here's what I've got in my preliminary work with Taxing:
1: R (100%)
3: R (100%)
5: R (100%)
6: R (100%; uses steel bashing glitch), L
7: R (Uses steel glitches to go under the OWW)
8: R (100%)
9: R (100%)
10: R (100%)
12: R (100%)
14: R (100%)
15: R (100%)
17: R (100%)
18: R (Uses steel glitches to go under the OWW)
19: R
20: R (100%), L (100%)
21: R (100%)
22: R (100% with steel glitch)
24: R (100%)
25: R
27: R
29: R (100%)
30: R (100%)

Edit: Various improvements to Insane Steve's Tricky results
3: R (100%)
10: R (100%) Use the left group to save the right.
11: R (Using sliding glitch)
13: R (100%; uses steel glitches)
19: R (100%)
20: R (100%)
23: R
24: R (100%)
27: R (Steel bashing)

Edit 2:  Added a couple of "wrong way" solutions to Taxing

ccexplore

Since people seem to have trouble with Fun 27 http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/shocked.gif" alt=":o" title="Shocked" class="smiley" /> http://www.lemmingsforums.com/Smileys/lemmings/undecided.gif" alt=":-\" title="Undecided" class="smiley" />, here attached is R, 100%, no glitch for that level.

ccexplore

Fun 12 L, 100%, no glitch.  Fun 12 R 100% no-glitch is also pretty easy (see spoiler below):

Quote from: Fun12-R-100
Just dig shallow pit and build, to prevent lemmings from falling off the left.