Levels by Crane

[Crane]

Attached the latest version of that level!  P.S. It is actually the final level of Lemmings Cranium (Chaos 30) as a kind of grand finale.

I also attached a couple of very old levels of mine.  "Sharing a Climber?" is the first level I ever made back in the early 2000s, while "Deep Freeze" has been surprisingly inspirational despite how bare-bones it is.

[JawaJuice]

Scratch what I said about Incompressible - the solution just came to me as I was doing something else entirely lol! I should have known better than to think you would ever publish an impossible level!

[Crane]

Ooo wow, I've just seen I have a lot of replays to go through!  You've been busy!  (And already done Deep Freeze, I see)

[JawaJuice]

Yes! To be honest, I did Deep Freeze a long time ago, it's just my old replay re-saved. I had another crack at going for gold though, to no avail!

[Crane]

Scratch what I said about Incompressible - the solution just came to me as I was doing something else entirely lol! I should have known better than to think you would ever publish an impossible level!

That's actually unintended, but given how much precision is required, I'll let it pass!  There is an easier way of solving the level:

Intended Incompressible Solution

Dig as close as you can to the steel at the top when there are about 27 lemmings left to come out.  The digger tunnel will only be about half as wide and the compressor trap will only trigger once on that crowd.

[Crane]

I do have one fun level for you to try.  It was an entry in a contest a few years ago, but is also Curious 24 in Lemmings Cranium.  Behold, "Mincemeat"!

[JawaJuice]

That's actually unintended, but given how much precision is required, I'll let it pass!  There is an easier way of solving the level:

Intended Incompressible Solution

Dig as close as you can to the steel at the top when there are about 27 lemmings left to come out.  The digger tunnel will only be about half as wide and the compressor trap will only trigger once on that crowd.

Makes sense! Sounds similar but yes, agreed, a lot of precision required to pull it off my way It would probably be unreasonable if that were the intended solution!

EDIT: I think I have the solution to the latest version of Blockout, but it's gonna be difficult to execute

[JawaJuice]

Wowzers, this one was really tight on time - needed a lot of small optimizations to get everything done on time!

[JawaJuice]

I'm also gonna post Ice Cream Cake 1 & 2 here, if that's OK. You've already seen my Ice Cream Cake 1 replay, but hopefully other folks will want to give these levels a crack. I know you said Armani has done them - and is the reason that two versions exist! #2 still has me stumped. You urged me to think why I might need two climbers but my mind drew a blank!

[Crane]

Blockout is intended - well done!

There is a YouTube video out there of IchoTolot solving the two Ice Cream Cake levels if you're curious (skip to 9:00):

[JawaJuice]

Cheers, yes, I thought Blockout must be the intended solution - a very nice level!

Spoiler

For a time, I was one lemming short, thinking I had to deploy another permanent one to turn around the final lemming to dig, but then remembered the old using a blocker to halt the progress of a digger right on the edge of a block

Icho's solution to Cream Cake 2 - I'll be honest, I never would have thought of that. Having seen it though, hopefully I can bank that kind of strategy in my memory for future solving. Sometimes the best way to learn is watching a master in action!

Similarly stumped by Medivac. I don't tend to do so well with these kind of levels. Not sure what I mean by 'these kind of levels', but I know them when I see them XD

[JawaJuice]

I do have one fun level for you to try.  It was an entry in a contest a few years ago, but is also Curious 24 in Lemmings Cranium.  Behold, "Mincemeat"!

Yeah, horrible level. I got precisely nowhere with that! I don't like 99 release rate levels at the best of times, but that's just

[kaywhyn]

Ah, Mincemeat. The one I pre-tested for Crane. I still urge you to attempt the level, JawaJuice. It's one of my favorites and is quite a satisfying solve! The talisman is excellent as well, even if it's on the fiddly side, but then again a lot of max-save challenge solutions are!  

[Armani]

@JawaJuice 


Plus, here are some of the replays I uploaded to Discord before that are probably worth keeping

[JawaJuice]

@kaywhyn I really do hate these kind of levels. I just find them stressful, especially with that abrasive 'I'll Be Back' tune playing haha. I did actually have another go at it, but again, I get nowhere with the normal version let alone the talisman!

Spoiler

You clearly have to use all 5 builders to cross the water, which only leaves you 5 diggers to get most of the crowd down safely. If I try an AT style solution to turn them around at the far end, hardly any of them get back up before the digger steps become too high to climb. Conversely, if I use the old stair steps technique of creating 1-pixel offsets by using one digger to cancel the other, most of the crowd end up going towards the fire trap, where they all obviously die. It's not really the kind of puzzle where you can come up with multiple ideas of things to try, I find, and I'm pretty much out of ideas already!

EDIT: Actually, scratch that. I think I've worked out how to do this level, though it's gonna be tricky to pull off. Apologies to @Crane, I think I may have been guilty of complaining before properly engaging my brain in this case!

@Armani I shall take a look! 1m28s for Last Lemming Standing sounds insane!

EDIT: Those made for entertaining viewing with a coffee break, Armani! Your solution to Deep Freeze is very intricate, which ties into what kaywhyn was saying about max save solutions often being fiddly. Watching your Last Lemming Standing replay was a hoot! It was almost like watching someone play an arcade game like Mario rather than Lemmings I will hold off from watching your Outside the Box Part 2 replay for now, I might give that one another crack myself first.