music : do the original levels have official tracks ?

[Guigui]

EDIT : asking another question at he end of this thread.



Having quite a lot of fun with NL but unsure how the music things do work.

I've extracted a bunch of music packs in my music folder, which is now overcrowded with .ogg files mainly. Some of them are in dedicated subfolder like Lemmings_Plus_III and IV, some are just in the music folder.

Now when I play the game, I do always get the sames musics, mainly from the Genesis version. Seems like I do not have the music intended by the level creators.

So questions : how do I sort this music folder to get the songs intended by level creator ? Or is there even such an intended music per level ?

[IchoTolot]

Hi,

which music is being played often depends on the pack/level you are playing.

Some custom packs specify certain tracks for their levels. You can check those out if you go directly into a level textfile.
Those tracks then need to be inside the music folder or the dedicated subfolder in there.

A lot of packs specify no music -> the standard rotation gets played!


What is the standard rotation?

Usually the orig_ and ohno_ tracks.

I assume you have the standard Genesis version tracks serving as those currently -> that's why they get chosen a lot!

You can swap out these tracks for different ones if you fancy another standard rotation. Often peole get one of the ones linked here: https://www.neolemmix.com/?page=music_packs

But you can go totally custom if you want.


A pack can also defy tracks for it's own standard rotation! You can check out if the pack has one of it's own when it has a "music.nxmi" file.
If levels have a certain tracks specified in their level file than those get priority though.

[Guigui]

Thank you for the clarification IchoTolot, those make perfect sense with what I observe.

So I will just put in my music folder the "rotation" I prefer with orig_ and oh_no_ files that will be played in levels who do not specify their own music.

I also encounter the problem of levels that do specify their own music, but I do not have the related file.
For instance, Holiday Lemmings 2024 by fellow Armani, Night level 1 called 23:58:30 12/24. The .nxlv file starts with the following :

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#        Level info           
# -----------------------------
 TITLE 23:58:30 12/24
 AUTHOR Armani
 MUSIC Frosty the Snowman
 ID x26742A1A2CB3C40E
 VERSION x000000000000003A
Though I do not have that song "Frosty the Snowman" anywhere, even though I downloaded a bunch of them music packs. Maybe I missed some of them somewhere ?

[kaywhyn]

Hi @Guigui,

Welcome to the Forums! The music pack download is in the Holiday Lemmings 2024 topic, near the bottom of the first post there (there's three download links, the music pack is the second link):

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6954.0

[Guigui]

Of course I was so happy to find more Lemmings games on this niche forum, that I was not focused enough to actually read that one needs to also DL the music packs that goes with the level packs. Not even ashamed.

Thank you all for the great work here, really glad I found this site.

[Guigui]

Adding another question to this thread : do original levels have official tracks ?

More precisely for instance, if I were to play level I am A. T. on the Sega Genesis, would I always get the same music, or would it change according to the current rotation on the system ?

If they exists, I am looking for those official tracks for I am A. T., Lemmings Ark and Dolly Dimple.

[namida]

Different ports have different behaviors. Most ports do have a fixed track for each level, but this isn't always the same between ports. DOS and Win95 (among several others) just play the first track on the first level you play, then the next track for every subsequent level (with special cases for the special graphics levels).

I Am AT solely appears in the Genesis version if I'm not mistaken, which does have fixed tracks for each level. Lemmings Ark appears in both Genesis and SNES; both use fixed tracks but I'm not sure if it has the same track on both. Dolly Dimple exists on both DOS (which doesn't have fixed tracks) and Amiga (which does). I couldn't tell you off hand which tracks they have, but an emulator (or YouTube) can probably clear that up.

[Proxima]

Dolly Dimple is the 22nd level of ONML and it has six tracks, so on Amiga/Mac it will have the fourth track in the rotation. That's the one called ohno_05 in NeoLemmix (because NL numbers the ONML tracks following the DOS version).

[Guigui]

Thank you namida and Proxima for answers.

Following your advices, this is what I found for the mentionned tracks by checking videos on YT :

I am E.Z.T.  = orig_14-tim10genesis (Genesis)
Lemmings Ark = orig_02-lemming1genesis (Genesis)
Dolly Dimple = ohno_05  (Amiga)