Holiday Lemmings 2024

[Mobiethian]

You'll get there, I am confident. Armani is really clever with his levels. ha

NEWS! A style that I was using was removed from the database, so I had to remove those items from the level, specifically, Bank Holiday Daytime Level 7. Downloading the pack again will fix this. Or, if you've made progress, let me know and I will send the updated level file itself to you. Sorry about this, everyone!

[Guigui]

Very slowly progressing through daytime.

Level 6 Skating On Thin Ice is another masterpiece by Armani. Glad I could clear it, this half turn with dig and platform is hellish.

I have an alternate route than the one shown on your "How to solve it" videos. Using that little gap at the top of the left one-way pillar seemed mandatory to me :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V5bSa0I5A8YhVRa4B5kHsyZp6CnuV6o2/view?usp=sharing

[Mobiethian]

Awesomeness! I like your solving method there.

For all players, now you can download the level file itself to the broken level - Daytime 7 to fix it and play!  Considering the broken pieces that had occurred recently. Enjoy! Sorry for any inconvenience.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hl95QGrAKQOhKSfDE6hFP7bBLPteKG4v/view?usp=sharing

[Guigui]

Now how green is that check ?


Considering I'm quite new to NeoLemmix, this was a really good, and hard, trip there to my first pack of custom levels (not counting Lemmings Redux).

Those tough levels from Armani, I sometimes had to resort to the "How to solve it" videos : play the level for about one hour, get stuck, watch the video until a point it shows something I did not try yet, then usually I can figure the rest.

Hardest levels in that regards imo :
All I want for Christmas is
The Bear Necessities
Sky Shield
Watch Your Step
Warm Cosy Basement
WHere Angels Dwell

Curious to know if more veterans players than me tried this pack and what their toughts are on the general difficulty of those levels. Just to give me an idea of what to expect from a next custom levels pack.

I'd say if you want to sort the level by difficulty, just put all Mobiethian's level in one rank, and the Armani ones in the others !

Thanks again for creating the pack.

[Mobiethian]

Perfect! Congrats for solving all levels in Holiday Lemmings 2024, Guigui! You're welcome for the level pack and thank you for playing as well as for the review. We do appreciate that. I can't speak for Armani, but I am pretty sure he appreciates it.

I'm still new to things with 'tough level' making and still learning. My next level pack will indeed be a challenge, it is really tough so far.

I like your sorting idea there, it can be done if the players knew the authors of the levels first. Hope to be in touch sometime regarding my next level pack due to be revealed sometime around the holidays or after. There's no set release date this time.

[Armani]

@Guigui
Thank you very much for playing our holiday pack! I hope you enjoyed it
I think the overall difficulty of this pack is slightly above the average.
There are many easier packs in the NL level pack board and also there're quite a lot of harder ones too.
If you have hard time finding packs with suitable difficulties, you can ask the forum and people will gladly recommend some packs with your desirable difficulty

[Guigui]

Thank you for your input Armani. Now your name is definitely associated with tough levels for me.

I could for sure use some recommendations for packs with different levels of difficulty :

* easy and fun : playable for my 10ish years old kids
* moderate difficulty : need to think, but can figure out the solution in a matter of minutes.
* harder : where I begin to struggle, like this Holiday Lemmings 2024.
* too hard for me yet : where I wont find the solution without hints, frustrating.

[kaywhyn]

Thank you for your input Armani. Now your name is definitely associated with tough levels for me.

I could for sure use some recommendations for packs with different levels of difficulty :

* easy and fun : playable for my 10ish years old kids
* moderate difficulty : need to think, but can figure out the solution in a matter of minutes.
* harder : where I begin to struggle, like this Holiday Lemmings 2024.
* too hard for me yet : where I wont find the solution without hints, frustrating.

As promised, here's a list a user was generous enough to send me that has the packs separated into the 3 categories you mentioned, which I pretty much agree with them on where they're listed!

* easy and fun : playable for my 10ish years old kids
Lemmings New Worlds
Lemmings Faithful
Lemmings Plus I
Holiday Lemmings Plus
Gronkling's Animal Pack (Easy difficulty)
Geofflems
Mazulems

* moderate difficulty : need to think, but can figure out the solution in a matter of minutes.
Lemmings Plus II
Lemmings Plus Omega
Lemmings Plus VI
Sublems
Blizzard of Lemm
Mobilems
Lemmings in Weirdyland
Deceit's Lemmings
DoveLems
PimoLems
Insane Steve's World

* harder : where I begin to struggle, like this Holiday Lemmings 2024.
Fiat Lem
Festival Millas 2023
Festival Millas 2024
Lemmings Cranium
Lemmings Plus III
Lemmings Plus IV
Lemmings Plus V
Lemmings Plus VII
Quest from Kieran
SEB Lems
MegSEGAbytes
Zemmings Complete
Lemmings Migration
Lemmings Destination
Revenge of the Lemmings

* too hard for me yet : where I wont find the solution without hints, frustrating.
Lemmings Uncharted
Lemmings United
Lemmings Reunion
Gronkling's Animal Pack (Hard difficulty)
LemRunner
Lemmings Plus Omega II
Lemmings Plus Alpha
Mike's Lemmings V2
NepsterLems
Clammings
Artlems

The user who sent me the list hasn't solved all of these packs, while I have played and solved all of the packs listed except for FM2024 (haven't started that one yet), but yea, I think this list is quite accurate! [/list]

[Mobiethian]

That's a rather nicely assembled list, I must say. I just want to have the chance to say that I'm working very hard to make my next level pack Oh Wow! More New Worlds as difficult as I can make it. I've been reading reviews and listening to everyone regarding my level packs/levels featured in packs, etc. that they are just way too easy. I'm hoping to change that.

I've been watching playthrough videos, replaying the old Lemmings games, and reading topics/posts regarding the toughest level packs out there. Not that I want to make it too difficult for easy level pack players, but I want to clear my name once and for all of being an easy level maker with all of my work. I hope that everyone really enjoys Holiday Lemmings 2024 into the future, but without Armani, this one would be far too easy to complete like the others. I really appreciate him and his hard work.

[Guigui]

Many thanks for the list kaywhyn, definitely a great help to swin in the ocean of levels packs. I must say I'm a bit overwhelmed by NL stuff that I just discovered about a month ago, so much to do with users-created content ! So this list is a nice guide.

Also Mobiethian do not worry about making not-hard-as-hell levels, we love them too !
Actually I downloaded all the packs categorized "easy, my 10yo kids can play it", often need to relax and save Lemmings without torturing my head for a millenia.

[kevinmichael]

I certainly admire the easy levels and won't attempt the hard ones. I get so frustrated - even with some of the easy ones. I think laying back with some levels is perfect.

[Mobiethian]

Thank you, kind gentlemen, for weighing in on what I've said earlier. And the kind words! The thing is, and I'm being completely honest here, I can't solve harder levels at all. And I'm not alone here. I've even showed levels off of mine to friends around here locally and they don't have the slightest idea how to solve them at all.   Even some having experience with the original Lemmings game. This is why I made the YouTube playthroughs and added IchoTolot's to my channel playlist as well. I appreciate that he did an LP on Lemmings New Worlds! Thank you, IchoTolot!

The thing is, it does sadden me sometimes when my levels are seemingly too easy compared to others. I see a lot of other levels in packs that I play and I can't solve any one of their levels, which is fine by me. They're nice to look at! I do try, however. The Level of the Year nominations are beautiful, however, mine are so simple compared to the whole thing and I cannot solve any of the other levels except for just one.