General Loap progress discussion topic

Started by namida, January 08, 2022, 11:18:41 PM

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Just discovered this. It looks awesome! I'm having a bit of problem getting it to run at the moment though. It keeps saying it needs .net core. I've tried installing various versions and none seem to work at the moment. Is there a particular .Net version it needs?

namida

My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

bezzie616

How do you make music work with this? Or has it not being implemented (yet)? I ripped the red book audio of the original 3D PC release but no matter where I place the folder, (or any other rip of Lemmings music. It won't play music.

namida

Quote from: bezzie616 on October 13, 2025, 08:48:50 PMHow do you make music work with this? Or has it not being implemented (yet)? I ripped the red book audio of the original 3D PC release but no matter where I place the folder, (or any other rip of Lemmings music. It won't play music.

Did you use one of the releases in this topic? If so - they were older versions while Loap was in development.

Download V1.0.0.0 from the release topic (from the first post; it's been updated every time there's a new release): https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5907.0

Older releases had the music as a seperate download so that they didn't have to be redownloaded with every update (as they were the majority of the file size), but because further updates are unlikely at this point, I decided it was simpler to put everything in one download.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

bezzie616

Quote from: namida on October 14, 2025, 06:47:57 AM
Quote from: bezzie616 on October 13, 2025, 08:48:50 PMHow do you make music work with this? Or has it not being implemented (yet)? I ripped the red book audio of the original 3D PC release but no matter where I place the folder, (or any other rip of Lemmings music. It won't play music.

Did you use one of the releases in this topic? If so - they were older versions while Loap was in development.

Download V1.0.0.0 from the release topic (from the first post; it's been updated every time there's a new release): https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5907.0

Older releases had the music as a seperate download so that they didn't have to be redownloaded with every update (as they were the majority of the file size), but because further updates are unlikely at this point, I decided it was simpler to put everything in one download.
Ah that explains it. Thanks.

karjonas

Thanks for making this project, it is really nice. I built and ran it on Linux. I even made a PKGBUILD so it is easily installable on Arch Linux https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/loap-git While doing this I had to do a small patch where I put the settings, progress and replays in the proper user directories. I think you should patch the source to do this too. Something I couldn't figure out is if it is possible to pan and rotate using the mouse? It did not work for me at least but the code seems to suggest it should be possible. Some of the background graphics are horribly low quality so it would be nice if we could replace them with higher resolution versions if possible. I'm also wondering if it would be possible to replace some of the sprites with proper 3d models or to make the lemmings voxel based like in voxel doom if you are familiar with that project. Anyhow, great work :)

kaywhyn

Hi @karjonas, welcome to the Forums! :thumbsup: Yup, it's possible to pan and rotate with the mouse for Loap. For rotating, hold the right mouse button. For panning, it's the middle button if your mouse has one. In my case, I have a Logitech MX Anywhere 3S mouse which has a scroll wheel instead and clicking it at the bottom does the same thing as panning for me.

karjonas

Thanks. I managed to get the rotation working by hacking around in the source code a bit. It's a fun game and I'm already at the Mayhem levels. What is the license of the source code btw?

kaywhyn

Quote from: karjonas on December 08, 2025, 01:43:55 PMThanks. I managed to get the rotation working by hacking around in the source code a bit. It's a fun game and I'm already at the Mayhem levels. What is the license of the source code btw?

Source code is here: https://bitbucket.org/namida42/loap/src/master/

This link is also in the OP at the very bottom of the post: https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5892.msg95202#msg95202

karjonas

Thanks, reading the posts it seems there is no license yet but it is intended to be MIT. I think it is a good idea to decide on a license and at the very least put a LICENSE file in the repository.

Unrelated to this, I noticed that sometimes when I beat a level and go to the next one it skips levels. I don't know if this is a bug or not.

namida

#70
I can confirm that my intent is for Loap to be under the MIT licence, and not actually specifying such in the repository is an oversight (in other words: it should already be under it at this point).

I will fix that up soon (assuming it doesn't slip my mind). EDIT: Done.
My projects
2D Lemmings: NeoLemmix (engine) | Lemmings Plus Series (level packs) | Doomsday Lemmings (level pack)
3D Lemmings: Loap (engine) | L3DEdit (level / graphics editor) | L3DUtils (replay / etc utility) | Lemmings Plus 3D (level pack)
Non-Lemmings: Commander Keen: Galaxy Reimagined (a Commander Keen fangame)

karjonas

Nice. Do you accept pull requests? I think that patch I made could be upstreamed.