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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2020, 12:24:01 am »
Regarding Hellish 18, I would recommend taking a look at my replays for the NL Tutorial Pack. Also, the end is the same as the beginning, so once you figure out the start, the rest of the level should be easy. Hellish 20 is the exact same as the Superlemmini's version, just with all the many traps visible, so you should be able to imitate my replay for it, but as it's a 99 of everything level that means you are welcome to take any route you like!

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« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2020, 01:39:11 am »
ok Hellish 20 is solved. did 2 ways. saving 96 with blockers because in NL there's deadly sides, and Kaywhyn's way saving 100. so I have 2 replays for this level.
NL's version is easier not only because the traps are visible, but because of backward framestepping(unlike Superlemmini only has forward). Also the save % is only 50%. but that doesn't make it harder since I used kaywhyn's solution saving 100.

I'll have to work more on hellish 18.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2020, 02:09:38 am »
I think I need to be nudged slightly more in the right direction for Hellish 19
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« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2020, 02:14:55 am »
Hint: Try using diggers elsewhere.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2020, 02:32:29 am by ericderkovits »

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #94 on: September 04, 2020, 02:20:10 am »
@eric I would put the whole thing in a spoiler tag (to do this, when typing a post, the circle with black and yellow triangles is the one to use, then just type in between the spoiler brackets) or at least modify it instead of outright giving away the solution like that. Remember that others who play this pack might want to figure out the solution for themselves. But yes,

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« Last Edit: September 04, 2020, 02:47:38 am by kaywhyn »

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« Reply #95 on: September 04, 2020, 02:31:26 am »
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« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2020, 02:49:04 am »
Actually, I just realized that eric's solution is much simpler, so he has confirmed for me that indeed my obscure trick I'm referring to in my spoiler is not necessary to solve the level. Let's just say that mine is a challenge solution that unless you're aware that the odd quirk combo works, it's likely one will not be able to come up with it. So, this most likely means that you're not using some of the skills in the right places and possibly that you're probably taking the route that's causing you to use up more skills than is necessary.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2020, 02:56:58 am »
hey kaywhyn I can P.M. You my solution. also since you already solved it, it's not giving away anything.

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« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2020, 03:00:26 am »
@eric thanks, but I already know how to achieve your solution, because my solution also uses that in the end. Now that you mentioned it, I have no idea how something simple like that managed to escape me. However, I can PM you mine and you'll see that mine is way more difficult and definitely one you wouldn't think of. Then again, you might had seen me use this on one of the War levels of United.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2020, 03:34:53 am »
It has been done. I completed Hellish 19 and 20. That means I have officially completed Sublems. So thanks to kaywhyn and ericderkovits for help here and there. So yeah.. I guess that's it. Here are all the replays. Thanks Colorful Arty for the pack of course! It was the perfect difficulty level for me. I think I'll tackle Lemmings Plus 1 next I've made it very far in that pack already so I may as well finish it up.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #100 on: September 04, 2020, 03:51:11 am »
that's a different way to do hellish 19. good job!

Also thanks for Hellish 18, I could have never done this level. I think that one is the hardest one in the pack.

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« Reply #101 on: September 04, 2020, 03:51:36 am »
My congratulations to you Shmolem for completing your very first custom level pack. :thumbsup: I knew you could do it. It must had felt really nice to end the pack with a super easy 99 of everything level after all the nailbiting levels. Now that you managed to complete Hellish 19, let me PM you my solution so that you can see the obscure trick I used. You probably won't ever need to ever use it in any pack you play, but if it ever comes to it, you might remember and use it.

Best of luck with Lemmings Plus 1. I'm quite certain you can complete this too. I first played it on Dos and I managed to beat all of the pack except for two levels which are extremely annoying and fiddly to pull off on Dos (in large part because there's no framestepping, you cannot assign skills while paused, AND no directional select). One of them is in the NL version, which I managed to complete thanks to framestepping, while the other one was a level that got replaced with another one in future NL pack versions. Some of the levels are challenging, but they aren't anything you won't be able to handle.   

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #102 on: September 04, 2020, 04:15:22 am »
oh I forgot if you want to try the retro rank i converted it to Neolemmix from Superlemmini. You can download the levels to your folder and try these too.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #103 on: September 06, 2020, 06:22:51 pm »
Congratulations Shmolem on completing the pack! :thumbsup:

I know this is one of the easier packs out there, but it's still definitely tricky to beat, especially in the last two ranks. I hope you enjoyed playing. :)

Now... for my feedback on your solutions. You actually managed to backroute quite a few levels, so congrats on outsmarting me in several places :D I'll skip feedback on levels that were 100% intended and I have nothing to say about.

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Re: [NeoLemmix] SubLems
« Reply #104 on: September 08, 2020, 12:38:39 am »
Wow.. didn’t realize I backrouted THAT many levels! Some levels were like yeah this is probably a backroute and others not so much. For the easy levels and why I used some more complex things in them is simply because I like making super easy levels overly complicated just for the fun of it. But yes I enjoyed playing this very much and hopefully I’ll be able to beat more packs in the future. I have my eyes on you Lemmings Plus 1 I’m getting kinda close to beating you!