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Offline Simon

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2018, 06:53:47 pm »
Concrete proposal for the rerankings of previous post:
  • Feel the Pressure: Hopeless 13 -> insert as Daunting 9, before Merge Sort.
  • This is a Stickup: Daunting 33 -> Vicious 15.
  • Evacuate the Sinking Ship: Vicious 15 -> insert as Hopeless 7, before Crown Jewel Heist.
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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2018, 07:15:01 pm »
Replay for Feel the Pressure attached. Intended/acceptable/backroute? I remember solving the Lemmix original without too much trouble (this level came from the very first forum contest), but the Lix version has a tighter save requirement and fixed spawn interval. It feels like mostly luck that the Lix emerge tightly grouped enough that only two die to the traps, so I wonder if I missed an intended trick to group them more tightly.

If my solution is acceptable, then yes, it's okay to move to early Daunting.

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2018, 02:41:31 am »
I haven't checked it in the latest version, but I didn't see anything in the changelogs since the last version I have suggesting it's been changed, so...

Lix Potion Number Nine in Lovely doesn't require any actions to solve (0.9.17)! Is this intentional?

Assuming it's not, it should be possible to fix it by increasing the required save count from 40 to 41, or by adding one additional trap.

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2018, 06:54:06 am »
In old Lix, the SI was higher on that level so you had to realise that you could set the SI to 4 and just wait. When Simon got rid of variable SI, we discussed the level and he argued for changing the initial SI to 4 to leave this solution in. It's still surprisingly easy to overlook.

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2019, 04:10:56 pm »
Simon proposed to me that we adopt "Oblique Strategy" from mobius's set into the lemforum pack. After having solved the level, I like it and agree with the suggestion.

I suggest removing Daunting 19 "This is Too Much Stepping Stones" (which is honestly rather trivial) and inserting Oblique Strategy at the same place.

I'd like to replace the fennec hatches with sandstone hatches, since I prefer to use matching terrain, hatches and exit where possible.

Now that the "misc" folder exists, it would be a good idea to collect removed levels from lemforum and add them to one or more subfolders in misc, so that they don't disappear altogether.

One option is to have a subfolder for removed levels, like mobius's "Project Capybara" collection (we could even adopt that name?) Another possibility is to group levels by author, although some authors have only one or two levels to collect.

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2019, 04:30:21 pm »
I liked Oblique Strategy and think it should be part of the main pack as well. The question is if it is rather Vicious than Daunting.

I think it's good to have a folder for the culled levels, too. I've covered some of these levels in the current physics.

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Re: Lemforum pack changes, Lix 0.9.x
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2019, 02:04:32 pm »
My hunch is to rank Oblique Strategy into Vicious, with late Daunting as second choice. But I haven't solved Oblique Strategy independently: While solving, I was discussing ideas with Forestidia, she had solved it herself already. Thus, I can't assess it neutrally.

I'm fine to cut either Stickup (nasty to execute) or Too Much Stepping Stones (looks very bland). I'd rank Oblique Strategy higher than Too Much Stepping Stones.

Proxima, only for completeness: What is your feeling about Dream the Impossible Dream? Forestidia told me that there are unfixable backroutes in it. Would Dream be a candidate for cutting too, or is it better -- even with the backroute -- than Stickup or Too Much Stepping Stones?

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