Here is another Retrolemmini Pack.

Quest From Kieran: extract to resources/levels folder

music: extract to resources/music folder

replays: extract to resources/replays folder

Here is another pack for Retrolemmini. 
extract the levels to the resources/levels folder

GigaLems. It requires some new Styles (attached here). extract into the resources/styles folder

link for music.
https://mega.nz/file/DI02TbBb#Dnc3mwKRiiP_TI06gXOA5E5l2kRgWzc4tQgC1aFIK2A

extract to the resources/music folder

replays attached.
extract to the resources/replays folder

Quote from: WillLem on April 29, 2026, 03:56:25 AM

Quote from: hrb264 on April 27, 2026, 06:56:45 PMWill this be in the next update?

Yes, I'll aim to get a release ready for this weekend.

OK:)

Quote from: hrb264 on April 27, 2026, 06:56:45 PMWill this be in the next update?

Yes, I'll aim to get a release ready for this weekend.

We seem to have consensus on everything except the vine trap animation. Anybody have any ideas regarding this? It would be nice to have the OG styles sorted for the upcoming RotL re-issue, so ideas and suggestions are welcome at this time!

To be clear, here's what's been (more or less) agreed so far. Any of these can be further revised if anyone has any suggestions. But, if no ideas from others are forthcoming, I suggest we go ahead with these:


Bubble trap


Crystal trap


Chameleon trap

Rock trap will stay as it is (i.e. more frequent drips)

We just need to sort out the vine trap. I still think my version is enough of an improvement, but if anyone has any better ideas let's hear them.

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Update to 'special' - added crystal exit as separate base/top images for upcoming RotL reissue.

A quick comment regarding numbers.

I'd like us to aim for 120 levels (4 ranks of 30) for packs 1 and 2, but if push comes to shove I can concede that it might end up making more sense for one of the packs to have 100 levels. I'd probably suggest that we flip the script here, though, and make pack 1 the 100-level pack with 5 ranks of 20 levels. Reason: pack 2 is supposed to be the more difficult pack. There are more difficult levels than there are easy levels, and there will be less of an upward difficulty curve between ranks for pack 2. Ergo, it makes more sense for pack 2 to be bigger, and have fewer ranks.

The alternative is to keep RotL as a single pack, albeit with fewer levels than the existing version. This is the least preferable option IMHO. I'd rather source some duplicates from packs made around the same time as the original RotL (essentially making the 2-pack version something of a "best of" collection) rather than end up with what would essentially just be a slightly less bloated version of the existing pack.

It shouldn't come to that though. Hopefully, between myself, mobius and kaywhyn, we'll be able to re-approve enough of Proxima's shortlisted levels to make the numbers up without it feeling too much like we're keeping levels just for the sake of it. If at least one of us genuinely likes the level, that's good enough for me.

-reminder to change "minimac"'s name to "Minim"

-Perhaps we should alter the title of "we go separate ways" [originally Dangerzone] as it might spoil the solution for some.

<in replay to the comments on the google doc> :: also found here :: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gSs0lsAdHntkJ8ffSTbwg2yBkmqZFFTNGA07KD9LjEI/edit?gid=874540697#gid=874540697

I honestly agree with most of the decisions here and right now I'm leaning toward; "if we want more levels, bring old ones back/use them from the big packs (A notable example I'd propose is "Rhapsody" by ISteve. It's a great level on its own and fits with the harder "repeat" Rhapsody in Blue).
atm, I'm still on the fence about this. I'll give it more thought and review the pack.



notable disagreements/comments: (for now)

Crossing Paths: I agree to move it later but I'm as surprised as I was early on that so many people struggle with this level. Kaywhyn resorted to using a very advanced trick that is *not at all necessary* to solve it. If you look at my replay its actually quite simple...

10 is a magic number - this one looks simple but requires more than a little thought. I found it quite a challenge actually for it's placement and I think it might ought to be placed later.

Crossing Paths part 2 [likely be made part 1?] - imo this is one of Minim's best levels, its not difficult but fairly unique.

Stop look and listen [I don't remember finding this one too fiddly and I don't find multitasking a bad thing... (necessarily)]. But if it is fiddly it could probably be fixed?

Wing It: I also really like this one; maybe can be ranked lower a bit tho?

Ups and downs - I like these compact but non-trivial levels and this one has at least a few solutions requiring some mildly out of the box thinking.

Spoiler

making a faller a bomber isn't something newbies find obvious

There is also t3tesla's level original called "ice ice lemming" which is supposed to be a cheesy level

Spoiler

direct drop

but is solvable by normal means, and isn't even that precise on DOS, not a bad level imo, this could potentially replace it?

Let's Split - is it the multitasking you don't like? Again, I enjoy the unique challenge this level presents and it's not too difficult imo (good for an earlier rank placement)

A small problem: same comments about multitasking. I know it's builder heavy but it isn't a typical "L1 style long walk builderfest". Every level that's builder heavy (or involves multitasking) isn't necessarily bad imo. This one presents a bit of a unique (not super difficult) of splatform stacking/building challenges that isn't just "simply build over this pit). EDIT: This doesn't actually require any multitasking or timing what so ever. I actually forgot this re-watching my replay and I was reminded of some of Clam's amazing builder levels. (which of course if we ultimately decide to include levels by him there are several good candidates there as well)
I will add however; to make the final assignments to free the crowds less annoying; make the starting pits shorter to require fewer builders by adding steel there. I feel like I did this already or wanted to do this in 2022, not sure why its not already done.

EDIT: LIFE IN THE THIRD DIMENSION
-artistically unique and has an interesting solution as well, for an early game levle.

Quote from: Proxima on April 27, 2026, 08:57:55 PMA reminder to anyone who wants to contribute: the most helpful format is a description (video link will do) of both the backroute and the intended solution -- not just a fix suggestion, because if we can all see the backroute, we can all put our heads together to come up with the best fix.

And indeed "Cry for me" is a perfect illustration of this, because mobius's suggestion doesn't fix the backroute at all.

Spoiler

Intended solution: First top lemming builds to the red terrain; bash and mine to the exit. Two will slip past; make them floaters. One climbs up, builds to the exit; link the bottom crowds with a basher, build over the bash tunnel, and make everyone climb.

Backroute: First top lemming builds to the middle pillar, then to the exit. Four will slip past; make them floaters. Do the rest as in the intended solution.

(I don't remember exactly how I know the above-described solution is intended, but I remember the level from the Cheapo days, and I distinctly remember that at some point this was confirmed.)

A better fix is to reduce the floaters to 2, or increase the RR so that more lemmings fall past if you attempt the backroute. In Lix, the spawn interval is 15, corresponding to RR 88; in RotL v4 the RR is 80.