To be honest, you are making the huge discussion here Silken.

I would highly advice to chill down a bit, take a step back and be less invested in another person's topic name.


You are missing the main point anyway:

lemmkeev20 can name this topic as he likes, regardless of the arguments you are making for a certain name or designation.

Yes, Simon may have merged without thinking too much about the name and now it may be less accurate, but now it's in the author's hand as no more rules are being violated.

I'll leave the name up to him. You have made a suggestion and it's on him to accept it or don't.

The main goal was just to avoid having a new topic for every single level released as this directly violates a rule. That has been achieved. Case closed.

Quote from: lemmkeev20 on Today at 05:14:35 PMuhh i think i should name the pack to "X-tralems corporation levels and packs" is it any better?

No. "X-tralems" isn't the name of any real corporation. If your using it as a stand for "lemmkeev20's" why not just say that? Also if it is, this includes non-nominal packs, which Namida did say you can make a new thread for. It's more accurate then your previous title I guess, but why can't we just use my name "lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs"? That name is objectively the best name.

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Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMI think the level topic is perfectly fine! 

No it is not "perfectly fine." The current thread name is just an artefact of the fact that this thread was seemingly a thread for a pack named "X-tralems," and then Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread instead of just creating a new thread. I 100% promise you he would have just called it that if he made a new topic. The current title is not fit for purpose.

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMIt fits for single levels by lemmkeev20 and can also serve as a development topic if this turns into a finalised X-tralems pack.

No it doesn't; it seems a bit odd for single-levels by lemmkeev20 to be posted in a title which would make it seem like it's a development topic for a pack that's in-progress.

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMIf the pack comes out and this topic shall serve for futher single levels it can then still be renamed if necessary,

This currently serves as a topic for single levels, not just "shall serve for [them]" in the future if the pack comes out.

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMWe do not need to micro manage every single topic so the name fits 100% to the exact detail.

This is not micromanging; this is a significant difference, not just "micromanagement." Simon designated this thread to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and it still has the old name from when it was just seemingly for a pack named "X-tralems."

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMand the title of this topic also fits the current theme well enough.

No it doesn't "fit the current theme well enough." The title of this topic would suggest that this is a development pack named "X-tralems," not what it actually is, which is a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread.

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMSo, let's not take this topic off topic

I am not taking this topic off-topic. I think posting meta information about a thread in a thread such as the inaccurate title as an aterfact of the fact Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread, instead of just creating a new thread and not going to the Site Discussion board for just a "you forgot to rename the thread when you changed what the thread was" is completely reasonable and on-topic. If you think it's necessary move all of these posts to "Site Discussion" in a new thread, then you are free to do so, but I don't think that's necessary.

Quote from: IchoTolot on Today at 05:16:42 PMand leave room for the actual levels from lemmkeev20

As I said previously, I am not "using up any room" for lemmkeev20's levels. Threads don't have a post limit, and when the server's storage runs out Namida will upgrade it, so I'm not "using up any room." We have unlimited room.

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Honestly I don't get why such a big discussion has spawned out of this. I thought this was just going to be a menial objectively good one-post house keeping duty, this thread was seemingly a thread for a pack named "X-tralems," and then Simon designated this to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, and he just decided to move them all into this thread instead of just creating a new thread, and it still kept the old, no-longer accurate name. So now the thread had changed has it still kept the old name of the original thread all the posts were moved too so now just update it to what the thread now actually is. Simple. Done in 5 minutes. I don't get why this has spawned such a big discussion. I thought this would be an obviously objectively correct menial housekeeping change.

Quoteedit: its already done 

plus im really exited to see people publish gameplay of my submittion of the contest      

(like i've already said (note that this level requires a song when its finished which is this candy-cd (AKA one of the candy versions of 3D lemmings) so you can remember)

btw these are the rules i followed

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    Rule 2 (kaywhyn) - Happy 35th Birthday, Lemmings!:

    * Make a level depicting a birthday cake and 35 Lemmings (as a way to represent the candles, putting in the candles themselves is optional).
    * Pre-placed Lemmings and cloners are allowed and count in the total, as long as the total is 35 exactly.
    * Save requirement is anything goes.
    * The solution needs to involve the cake in some meaningful way.


and it was from this contest

I removed the level and the music file attachement from your post as I think you plan to submit the level and not post it openly.

I say it once again and this is the last time, the next time I will disqualify any openly posted level!

If you want to submit a level:

Send me a personal message with your level/s and if needed tileset/s to participate. It would also be nice to also tell me the rule which each level satisfies.

Please use the following naming format:  User1_Levelname_R3V1.nxlv ---> Level "Levelname" by User1  for Rule 3  Version 1 of the level.

If I am really hard on the rules here your previously attached level would now be not eligible for the contest anymore:

c. A level is not eligible if it has had a prior public release, even if that was on a different engine. Small-scale private releases (such as asking one or two people to test your level) will be tolerated. It is allowed to include the level in a public release after the contest's playing phase has started.

Attaching the level openly inside this topic would be a prior public release in relation to the playing phase!

So, please send the level and its contents diretly via a personal message to me in the stated format!

This time and this time only I will still accept it!

@lemmkeev20

Seems you need another reminder on how submitting levels for contests work, so I've quoted what Icho already showed you last time. Note the stuff that's bolded, send him a PM, and same thing with naming the level file correctly with username_level title_R2V1 (replace "username" with your username, so in this case you would put lemmkeev20, and same thing with "level title" with whatever you called your level).

Quote from: IchoTolot on October 18, 2026, 07:43:03 PMPlease read the first post carefully on how to submit a level!

Send me a personal message with your level/s and if needed tileset/s to participate. It would also be nice to also tell me the rule which each level satisfies.

Please use the following naming format:  User1_Levelname_R3V1.nxlv ---> Level "Levelname" by User1  for Rule 3  Version 1 of the level

I think the level topic is perfectly fine! 

It fits for single levels by lemmkeev20 and can also serve as a development topic if this turns into a finalised X-tralems pack.
If the pack comes out and this topic shall serve for futher single levels it can then still be renamed if necessary, but even that is optional.

We do not need to micro manage every single topic so the name fits 100% to the exact detail.

The most important thing is that not every new single level gets its own topic - that we achieved and the title of this topic also fits the current theme well enough.


So, let's not take this topic off topic and leave room for the actual levels from lemmkeev20! 

uhh i think i should name the pack to "X-tralems corporation levels and packs" is it any better?

Only two levels completed after 4-5 hours attempts. Damn this pack is brutal.   I still stuck proficio 1 and cannot figured it out. Attempt it 2 hours and What ever i do its goes wrong somewhere and i simply no have enough skills to pass this level. This level is even more difficult than Incipio 15. I´ll look it later again and simply skip it and goes play other levels.

Proficio 3 Wall

This take me 45 minutes figured out, its very genius & cunning level, i´ll quite sure this is intention and only possible completion solution

Impero 7 Crisis Management

Awesome extreme level, i´ll really liked this level, but heck yeah that was very hard to figured out and quite difficult to executed too (some releaserate manipulations includes make it good EXTREME level, spend nearly 2 hours with this, but i got it done i´ll think its intention solution too, seems just only possible way go this level through

Might continue my journery early next week. I´ll play every levels random order and will back proficio 1 later. But righnow i not have any single idea how this level goes. Its really road block me everywhere.

Have to say this might most difficult lemmings pack i everplayed myself. Crane pack was insane hard though, but those early levels was way easier compared Fiat Lem. Crane pack goes super hard when we enter Chaos Mode.

EDIT:

OOPS Forget add replays. Added.

EDIT: 2
I´ll put some shot yet. Just short levels. Just no feelings play long levels rightnows

Proficio 4

Damn this level was awesome. I just overlook it another 45 minutes, but yeah its just simple, but super genius, very great level.

EDIT: 3
This level was super tricky. Take me 7 approach. Not sure is it backroute. All skills used.

Proficio 5 Fire & Blood

Very tricky level, i try many approachs and many recorded attempt. This finally work. Its super cunning solution and perfect EXTREME Level. First approach i attempt use one miner with start, but end of level goes too impossible even make many differents variations. So just let miner at end. Goes start two digger & bomb and this let miner my at end. Most tricky things here is turn this climber back. Its pretty invisible, but use clear physic tool you can see how i did it

BTW
Have to say this pack is super great. Its insane hard, but yeah this really keep me trying it. Seriously completed this pack wont happen in this year.

Yes i´ll continue my progress next week. Just few days break time now.

Quote from: Proxima on Today at 04:19:00 PMIt doesn't matter

It does matter. Threads shouldn't be called something completely different to do with what they are. To give a metaphor, it would be like if we made a thread for sharing pictures of lemmings and we decided to change it to a thread for sharing pictures of all rodents and then we just forgot to update the name. It would be completely confusing. The thread only has an inaccurate name because Simon designated this a thread for a new thing from what it originally was and moved in posts from outside the thread that were that thing into here and forgot to update the name.

Quote from: Proxima on Today at 04:19:00 PMAnd honestly, I think it's rather rude to take up so much of lemmkeev20's topic with posts that are nothing to do with their levels.

I completley disagree with you that it is rude. It's not like threads have a post limit, I'm not "using up" any space a level could be posted in, and it seems perfectly reasonable to post about meta-information (e.g. the thread having a wrong title due to Simon forgetting/not thinking to update it when he designated it to be updated to the thread to be for all of lemmkeev20's levels and nominal packs) in the thread itself.

Quote from: Proxima on Today at 04:19:00 PMPlease just let them call the topic whatever they want.

Someone being the author of a thread gives them some discretion over the title, quite a bit actually, sure, but it doesn't give them free reign to just call it whatever they want, as having an inaccurate title effects everyone else, not just themselves. Should I be allowed to make a thread for sharing pictures of hamsters and call it "Share pictures of Lemmings in this thread" and force everyone who uses it to go "I want to share hamsters, oh no, that's the thread for sharing Lemmings that has the wrong name" just because I created the thread?

It doesn't matter. And honestly, I think it's rather rude to take up so much of lemmkeev20's topic with posts that are nothing to do with their levels. Please just let them call the topic whatever they want.

Quote from: WillLem on Today at 09:55:04 AMWhat's wrong with just using "X-traLems" as the title? It ain't broke, don't fix it.

I'll quote my other message in the thread where I explained the reason why,

Quote from: Silken Healer on October 23, 2026, 02:16:52 PMseeing as "X-tralems" seems like it's the name of a specific level pack, and then Simon designated this thread to be a lemmkeev20's levels/nominal packs thread, should we rename this thread to that for the sake of clarity as the thread is no longer just for the "X-tralems" pack any more?