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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 16, 2010, 11:36:09 PM »
Put a good screenshot and maybe I can come up with something.

Some good screenshots here:  http://portforward.com/games/walkthroughs/Lemmings/Fun-Level-9.htm

You can click on the images to enlarge.

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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 11, 2010, 08:59:27 PM »
I did Taxing 07 in 41.50 seconds which I thought was pretty good, but it's nowhere near the Top 5.

What is your time on Tricky 07?  (just curious...)

I have a partial solution that might explain how Fun 09 in 36 seconds is possible, but I can't figure out how to finish it.  It's very tricky:

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1. Pause and set release rate to 50
2. As soon as L2 appears at top of screen, pause and set release rate back to 1
3. Basically, we need to find a way to make lemmings turn around without using the Blocker
4. Make L1 start building in center of the flat land
5. L2 will climb the ramp that L1 is building
6. As soon as L2 falls off the edge of L1's ramp and hits the ground, immediately set L2 to a builder
7. L2 will start building but hit his head on the underside of L1's ramp
8. This makes L2 turn around and start walking to the left
9. By now, L3 has hit the ground and is walking right
10. Don't worry about L1 any more -- just let him fall in the green muck and die
11. You now have two builders left.  L2 and L3 must build in the shape of λ to force all remaining lemmings to do an about-face and walk left -- (this is the part I can't make work -- the humps on the ground are critical to the placement if this method is really possible)


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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 10, 2010, 11:19:56 PM »
Odd. Does that mean he's paid for the game twice?

Yes.  I chatted with someone at ps3trophies dot org who bought all 3 versions (US, EU, JPN) to get the trophies 3 times!  On your trophy list it counts as 3 separate games even though they are all identical in terms of gameplay.

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What happens is the lemmings that exit later catch up with the first lemming (they don't all have to bridge the final gap, which is what slows down L1). The playthrough I just had actually had L1 (well, the lemming that bridges the final gap) as the final lemming saved as the rest of them overtook it as it was finishing its bridge and shrugging before stepping off the end.

Ah, good point!

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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 10, 2010, 08:01:33 PM »
Some random thoughts:

1) Suppose there was a cheat code that gave you 99 of every Tool.  That would explain many of the impossible times.

2) The US leaderboards are also dominated by piooner-mk6-100.  That guy is either the greatest Lemmings player or the only one with the cheat code, haha.

3) I replayed Mayhem 10 with the goal of saving just 1 lemming as quickly as possible.  It took me 64 seconds.  Now even with the release rate maxed out there is about 15 seconds of "distance" between L1 and L50, so saving all 50 should require a minimum of 89 seconds.  But piooner-mk6-100 did it in 1:05.58 (65.58 seconds).  I dare say that is "impossible" unless there is a way to make lemmings run instead of walk!

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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 10, 2010, 12:41:21 PM »
Just so you know, it's possible to only lose 1 lemming on Taxing 9. I'm guessing no-one had done it when you posted this, as as of a few days ago, there were only 4 of us with 9/10.

There is also a Save 5 Solution to Mayhem 3 which is technically Lose -1 since you start with 4 lemmings.

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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 10, 2010, 12:34:58 PM »
Glad to see there is still some interest in this game.  Thanks to Fleech and Pooty for helping me with the Save 8 Solution to Mayhem 4.

I am still not convinced that some of the top times on the leaderboards are really possible.  I have 3 theories:

1) The top times are by the game's developers who know how to exploit subtle intracacies of the game's mechanics to do those seemingly impossible times.

2) Someone figured out a way to cheat.

3) Some people are just way better at Lemmings than me.

I believe there are separate leaderboards for the US, EU, and JPN versions of this game.  Can anyone confirm?  I am playing the US version and I am ranked 5th on Mayhem 10 with all 50 lemming saved in 1:56.38. 

Completing this level in 70 seconds or under would require all lemmings to use the teleporter.  I have an idea of how to do this, but I can't actually do it.  A steel-digging glitch may be required to actually pull it off.


Yeah, I wish their was some DLC coming for this game, but I sort of doubt it.



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Lemmings Main / Re: Lemmings Update (PlayStation 3)
« on: July 04, 2010, 09:39:47 PM »
I was quite pleased to find the save 8 solution to Mayhem 4, becoming only the second person on the leaderboards to have done so. I'm surprised it's not been found by more people since it's much easier than the above levels.

Can you give me a clue?  I have to use all 3 blockers so saving 7 is the best I have done.

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