Quote from: JawaJuice on April 14, 2026, 04:36:51 PM

Quote from: Guigui on April 14, 2026, 04:16:43 PM

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How did JJ stop the laserer ? Is it stopped because it meets steel by like 1 or 2 pixels ?

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I did the same as you   I used a basher to remove a little bit of terrain before using the laserer; I believe this changes the trajectory of the laser such that it doesn't need to be interrupted (to avoid destroying the platform above). I don't believe the steel acts to stop the laser; it normally would, but only if you're going into a significant chunk of steel, not just touching a couple of pixels at the very corner of a steel section.

Sorry for spoiler discussion about stopping the lasered in The Aquatic Ruins !

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I did not stop the laserer, in my solution it destroys the platform with the button on it, but then I overcome this with a well placed basher.
In the end your solution uses basher+laser+jump, where mine uses laser+basher+jump, so we're equal here.

But then I maintain that the steel definitely stops your laser. Later this allows you to save another skill and then have that builder left at the end to turn the slider around to the exit.

On my side I turn the slider around with the walker pickup, which is why I think my solution is intended whereas yours is backroute : laser stopped by steel is not intentionnal by designer Mobiethian/kaywhyn. Let's see what they say !

Quote from: Guigui on April 14, 2026, 04:16:43 PM

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How did JJ stop the laserer ? Is it stopped because it meets steel by like 1 or 2 pixels ?

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I did the same as you   I used a basher to remove a little bit of terrain before using the laserer; I believe this changes the trajectory of the laser such that it doesn't need to be interrupted (to avoid destroying the platform above). I don't believe the steel acts to stop the laser; it normally would, but only if you're going into a significant chunk of steel, not just touching a couple of pixels at the very corner of a steel section.

Your solution sounds quite different to mine otherwise, GG.

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The fact you did need the walker pickup makes me think I've probably backrouted it again! If I had to guess what the walker was for though, I would've thought it might be to release the blocker.

Thanks for the input, Guigui and I am highly appreciative that you're playing. I'll check out your replay when I can. I have some from others that still need reviewed. I gotta say though, The Aquatic Ruins is a very mysterious level! haha

JJ was faster than me on that one, here are my replays for the updated levels of v2.0.
I could not do 100% on some of the Prepare levels anymore, but I think they are more solid this time around.

As for The Aquatic Ruins, it is not a hard and very nice level ! Comments :

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I also had to choose where to use the jumpers carefully. In the end I did not cancel the laserer because the extra basher allows for making the slight space needed to access the second button in a single jump despite the laserer hole.

I think I have the intended solution because I do need the walker pickup at the very end, to save the cursed slider.

The hardest part for me to figure was that one actually needs 2 pionneers to make it at the end : disarmer cannot be slider too. So isolating 2 lemmings at the beginning was necessary, and the weird part where one needs two builders to reach that leaf on the wall makes perfect sense !
So yeah, I guess this is intended solution ?

EDIT : after looking at JawaJuice's solution, I also have the idea that it is a backroute. Question :

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How did JJ stop the laserer ? Is it stopped because it meets steel by like 1 or 2 pixels ?

Quote from: JawaJuice on April 14, 2026, 03:41:55 PMYou'll have to let me know if I've found any more backroutes!

Will do! I'm doing some more testing now actually, I'll be coming across that level eventually and we'll see if any more changes could or need to be made. Thanks, JawaJuice, I appreciate you and your assistance, always!

So there were half a dozen or so levels in the end that required new solutions, including 'The Aquatic Ruins', of course. I'm also including my previous solution for 'Deep Chasm of Coinage'; it didn't actually need a redo though, so guessing it wasn't a backroute in the first place.

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The only thing that makes me think 'The Aquatic Ruins' could be another backroute is the fact I didn't need the walker pickup, although that I suspect that might be a red herring Main difference to my last solution is that I couldn't afford to waste a jumper interrupting the laserer this time around.

You'll have to let me know if I've found any more backroutes!

Thanks, @Mobiethian and @kaywhyn for this update! I've already started looking at some of the updated levels and a fair few of my previous replays no longer work, so I guess I must have backrouted them before - more or less egregiously XD This is a good thing though, as I've now got more NL to play!

Thanks for the replies all! I'm so sorry that I'm only just getting to respond to them now It's been an honor working with Mobiethian here to pre-test the entire pack before release and also to help him with the v2.0 update!

I've added a short note next to the custom sounds download to let players know to backup the sound folder if one chooses to use them, as they will overwrite the defaults! That is indeed great advice @Icho gave there for Mobiethian and as a heads-up for everyone else

Now my response to the levels where Mobiethian credited me for my solution:

Deep Chasm of Coinage

Both Dexter's and Guigui's solutions I consider acceptable. Guigui's is identical to my solution in nearly every way, but Dexter's eventually uses my solution element at the start, just in a different order from ours. In any case, well done to the both of you for your great solves for the level!

The Aquatic Ruins

Nice, JawaJuice, Guigui, and Dexter have all more or less found the same backroute Still, great job with solving this level with impressive solutions! Mobiethian and I have made some changes which will hopefully enforce the solution I helped him come up with better I'm not sure if the level will hold up better now with them, but let's see!   

There was a slight boo-boo in "The Steel City". That has been changed and updated in the link.

I'm gonna be frank, I hate the my interest and inspiration in Lemmings has been at an all time low. I've haven't touched NeoLemmix in weeks, I haven't made a concept for any project since I made one part of a level idea. And my mind has been very empty in terms of level design ideas.

I've been prioritizing videos as of late simply because I've lost my motivation to make levels simply because I lost my flame after once having it. My Burnout project fizzled out rather quickly. And Millas and QSML has been at a stand still because of it. I've had such a bad month and April hasn't been going better. I'm not in the head space to create and I just feel like I just only merely exist, nothing more or less. I just want finish something that should've been finished years ago and now im back to were I was back in 2023. A lot of an existing projects, with no ideas, motivation or steam to keep it going.

I'm sorry for dragging my feet but if I was Sisyphus in this situation, the bolder would've crushed me at this rate.