Quote from: GigaLem on September 03, 2026, 12:46:38 AMThe website uses the wrong title screens for the SNES and genesis version, the SNES title screen has the Genesis Logo, and the Genesis title screen has the snes logo, they should be swapped.

They're darn good editors though. Just to think we can make Lemmings romhacks on consoles now. No longer locked and bound by PC and mouse.   

Sure, I could get across the wall and am currently trying to solve Original 8.
I'll definitely write a little heads up of my replays when I'm done with Original, and maybe Remake too if it is not too long nor hard.

Wednesday, September 2, 2026 stream is over, and I managed to solve the remaining 12 levels of the Sun rank, as well as the first 5 levels of the Black Hole rank! Replays attached.

This time, only Dawn in Lixtown is new to me, as that one isn't in NepsterLems. It is also a level that wraps and is very small as indicated by the vertical gray lines. Despite the small level size, it still looks quite daunting, especially with the 1-of-everything skillset except for diggers, where you don't have any, along with two entrances and two exits. Overall, the level wasn't as hard as I expected, though that's because my solution is probably a backroute due to the skills I had left. Even then, it's still worthy of the Sun rank finisher position, especially as it has wrap. The level was a pretty enjoyable one to puzzle and work out! I also love the various Lix sprites in the level!

The rest of the levels are familiar to me as they're all in NepsterLems as well. Except for Thin Layers, Mount Doom, and Fall and Never Live, which are in the Black Hole rank in NepsterLems, these levels are in the Neutron Star rank of NepsterLems, for which the Sun rank of NepsterLix is more or less the equivalent of (they're both the 4th rank out of 5 of their respective packs)

Some Sun Levels Feedback

A Ticket to Hell! - I remember my solution is slightly different in NepsterLems as I took advantage of a basher mechanic that's possible in NL but not in Lix

Spoiler

In NL, you can make a basher staircase by interrupting midstroke, but in Lix, she either removes none or all of the terrain at once, therefore making staircases with the basher is impossible in Lix.

Not only that, it took me a while to figure out the solution, as I couldn't remember the general idea for some time. Also, the NepsterLix level has a platformer, while NepsterLems only gives builders as it sticks to the classic 8 skills. Once I did figure it out, it was quite satisfying when it all fell into place!

Oddbox - My solution is more or less the same as my NepsterLems solution, though here you have a runner and so I suppose it can be slightly easier to execute in NepsterLix. I think I remember abusing something in NL and hence it feels more of a backroute there than in NepsterLix.

Dunes Much harder here than in NepsterLems, though in the end I used the exact same general solution as the one in NepsterLems. It's pretty much a matter of allocating the runner skill to the right Lix in order for the timing to all work out. Also, as mentioned in the spoiler for A Ticket in Hell!, the level in NepsterLix is harder due to a basher mechanic that isn't possible in Lix but is in NepsterLems. Even then, I would agree that the NepsterLix isn't worthy of the Black Hole rank despite being a bit harder than the NepsterLems version.

Thin Layers - As mentioned in the stream, this was the level that was responsible for preventing my solving all of NepsterLems for almost 3 years, all because of one critical spot that I was pretty much blind to the whole time See my video stream for the explanation, especially if you're not too bothered by spoilers Forgotten one part of the solution for a bit, but overall you can use the same solution here as in the NepsterLems version, except in the latter it's a bit easier to pull off since you can

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adjust the RR during gameplay.

Also, this is Black Hole 1 in NepsterLems instead of a Sun rank level like in NepsterLix.

Mount Doom - Ok, there's a gap in the terrain that most definitely isn't there in the NepsterLems version. For some reason, I couldn't remember how to do the solution from there, and honestly I remember solving that level very quickly and was wondering, what the heck is this level doing in the Black Hole rank? It's quite easy for the final rank! I managed to figure out how I solved it in NepsterLems before I watched my video solution, so goodness knows why it didn't occur to me during the stream Also, I at first didn't recognize that it has a version in NepsterLems, but I quickly caught on in the first few minutes. It's remade in the Dirt tileset and is Black Hole 10 there.

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For whatever reason, it didn't occur to me to have the left digger go a bit lower than the digger on the right instead of cancel him before or at the same level of the digger on the right so that you can bash everyone out to the right, which gives the builder enough time to bridge the gaps and then to finish mining to the exit in time.

On the Edge of Death This level has a 1 minute time limit in NepsterLems and as such the solution I used here in NepsterLix wouldn't work because it would time out long before I can even finish the level. Also a bit easier to pull off in NepsterLems due to the spoiler above for Thin Layers.

Fall and Never Live - This level is in the Black Hole rank in NepsterLems. I remember using a really heavy timing solution there. Since that's not possible here in NepsterLix, it's probably just slightly easier as a result. Even then, I still don't find it easy in any way. It's one of the final 5 levels of NepsterLems and definitely one of the hardest of the pack. The bashing probably can be made easier, but to get it to work some precision was needed with some earlier parts of the level.

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Some Black Hole Levels Feedback

A Heart for Lix - This level is in Return of the Tribes, the L2 pack for NL that Nepster never finished. I don't exactly remember the solution I used there, but I think I remember I used some extreme brute force to cheese the level. I might had done the same here as well, though it doesn't look too hackish or as brute forced.

Gray Walls - This one has a time limit in NepsterLems, though maybe my solution would finish on time here so all is fine.

The Rule of the One - Way more backroutable in NepsterLems due to how I used a heavy timing solution. The solution I used here in NepsterLix should be the intended way, as I tried other alternatives but couldn't get them to work, including trying to imitate the general heavy timing solution I used in NepsterLems.

A Bowl of Pillars - This one is a Neutron Star rank level in NepsterLems. I believe I use the exact same solution.

No added Colors and Lix Definitely a backroute, though I also use a really heavy timing solution in NepsterLems for this level that of course isn't required at all.

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80/96 NepsterLix levels solved! Meaning, 16 more levels to go for the main part of the pack and then a final Outtakes rank are all that's left of the pack!    

Oh that's so adorable! I want one!

The website uses the wrong title screens for the SNES and genesis version, the SNES title screen has the Genesis Logo, and the Genesis title screen has the snes logo, they should be swapped.

Stream is over and was on Wednesday, September 2, 2026:

https://youtube.com/live/YXXUNJoXd78?feature=share

It'd be amazing if the pack makes it, I'll make haste to improve and even add levels before the video is uploaded Flopsy, or I'll splat trying

Quote from: Guigui on September 01, 2026, 09:20:27 PMNice level design with some deceptions here and there.

Also Guigui, I'd love to hear suggestions, after all this is a very "old" pack (started in 2010) and I want better levels, so everything is welcome! Feedback will help me a ton

Some replays would be nice too, backroutes kept me from sharing this pack, but I'm really interested in the gameplay even if you didn't solve it, maybe the level is misleading somewhere and is actually poor design from my end

Thanks for the comments 

You're welcome. Thanks for prodding me to write down the findings!

Right, I hope that nearly all levels are solvable without the power tools of rewinding and tweaking. You should be able to choose how you play. The best puzzles are challenging but simple. If you need the power tools, they're available. If you don't need/want them, they shouldn't get in your way.

Related to the topic of powerful features:
Should RetroLemmini get a rewind feature or would that change how it feels?

-- Simon

Although this pack is still in development, I've added it to the wheel for my NeoLemmix 30 Series on my Youtube channel.

If the pack happens to get played, I'll post in this topic with a link

Thanks for the explanation Simon! It's probably because I play in a completely different way that I didn't notice!