Holiday Lemmings 2024

Mobiethian · December 01, 2024, 09:20:06 PM

Let's go! Holiday Lemmings 2024 is finally here! A 30 year anniversary NeoLemmix level pack in celebration of Holiday Lemmings 1994. This is a level pack that has been in development since summertime! Featuring 50 exciting, brand new levels, 25 of them per rank. The two ranks are: Night and Daytime. Meaning that Night is before Christmas (Christmas Eve) and Daytime is Christmas Day, and it goes on through until nighttime appears again with a boom! Actually, the ranks are interchangeable. They can be done in 'any' order of your choosing. The difficulty ranges! Be prepared for a roller-coaster ride! The level pack has been developed as a collaboration project by myself and Armani with the assistance of some wonderful people, credited below. It was an excellent experience!

I'd like to thank the following helpers for lending their time to pre-test the level pack and/or providing ideas, as well as assisting us while development was ongoing: kaywhyn, kevinmichael, Ritty, and Deedlebug. Most importantly, thank you for playing! It's hard to believe that when this level pack began, I was sitting in the air conditioning trying to cool down from the extreme heat. Now there is snow on the ground - just in time for release!

Download Link to Levels: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mMtZWBufC-RLbGzb1HjHZAVMVLXdPumo/view?usp=sharing

Download Link to Music: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SbBHdD7HxgsoY2oV9mnOrmET6yPgFDa/view?usp=sharing

Download Link to DOS Sounds: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HUqsTvjXlvYvRr2OJnmblod177VEMTFQ/view?usp=sharing

If you have any questions, comments, feedback, etc. this is the place. Or you may contact us on the Lemmings Forums Discord. Have a very Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year 2025! Thank you!

Mobiethian & Armani
Co-Developers, Level Designers

Flopsy · December 03, 2024, 10:03:01 PM

Suggestion, maybe give players a choice to download the DOS sounds separately rather than bundle it into the download.
I've just had to restore all of my sounds to the default sounds as well as my custom success and failure jingles after the download overwritten all of the sound files with the DOS sounds and default NL sounds.

Mobiethian · December 03, 2024, 10:42:59 PM

Quote from: Flopsy on December 03, 2024, 10:03:01 PMSuggestion, maybe give players a choice to download the DOS sounds separately rather than bundle it into the download.
I've just had to restore all of my sounds to the default sounds as well as my custom success and failure jingles after the download overwritten all of the sound files with the DOS sounds and default NL sounds.

Eeeek!

Oh, Flopsy, I am terribly sorry.

See, what it is.. I prefer the DOS sounds, because that's what I've grown up with, DOS, and stuck with through my Lemmings journey. I certainly hope that you didn't have an entirely difficult time restoring everything. Shall I update the download then? Minus the "sounds" folder?

In all honesty, I didn't know it would do that. Sorry again, my bad.

Mobiethian · December 03, 2024, 10:49:48 PM

I went ahead and updated it anyway without the sounds. Thanks for the suggestion! I wasn't aware of that issue.

Mobiethian · December 07, 2024, 08:01:30 PM

I had gotten a report today from a new player that he couldn't get through a lot of the levels in the pack. Including levels that I have made, strangely.

So now I'd like to leave it up to the community to help us arrange a new level order, from easiest to toughest.

This would allow new players to at least complete a handful of levels and perhaps learn how to do the tougher ones that way. And this would create some community involvement. Feedback?

Mobiethian · December 18, 2024, 12:40:18 PM

Christmas is just a week away! (as of today in my part of the world) And we hope that you're enjoying the level pack! There hasn't been any feedback lately, which is okay. So I am guessing that things are going smoothly, there haven't been anymore issues reported as well, which makes us happy.

And happy for you also!

If anyone can review the level pack in the near future, that would be totally appreciated! Even something short is good. I am also wanting to know if there are any ways to improve the level pack for all players.

kaywhyn is going to do an LP session on this eventually, but I can provide replays of levels by Armani if you're having trouble with solving any of them.

Everything being said, have a nice Christmas, folks!

IchoTolot · March 20, 2025, 04:31:08 PM

Just noticing here:

I think by accident you also put Lemmings_Redux and the NeoLemmix_Introduction pack in your Download.
Also the music folder seems to have quite a few tracks from the standard music rotation which the download also does not need.

Mobiethian · March 20, 2025, 05:52:22 PM

Quote from: IchoTolot on March 20, 2025, 04:31:08 PMJust noticing here:

I think by accident you also put Lemmings_Redux and the NeoLemmix_Introduction pack in your Download.
Also the music folder seems to have quite a few tracks from the standard music rotation which the download also does not need.

I appreciate the information and I have taken care of it now. Always appreciated, otherwise I wouldn't have known this at all.

Guigui · April 23, 2025, 12:50:59 AM

Kind of new to NeoLemmix, and currently playing this pack. I could reach Nighttime last level the "The Bare Necessities", not without sweating at lot on some levels like Claustrophobia 2, All I want For Christmas Is... and more.

Just wondering : how hard the hardest levels of this pack are supposed to be, compared to other packs around here ? Asking because those were very tough to me, wondering if this can get really harder next ?

Mobiethian · April 23, 2025, 01:37:31 PM

Quote from: Guigui on April 23, 2025, 12:50:59 AMKind of new to NeoLemmix, and currently playing this pack. I could reach Nighttime last level the "The Bare Necessities", not without sweating at lot on some levels like Claustrophobia 2, All I want For Christmas Is... and more.

Just wondering : how hard the hardest levels of this pack are supposed to be, compared to other packs around here ? Asking because those were very tough to me, wondering if this can get really harder next ?

Hello Guigui! Thank you for playing our level pack, we really appreciate it. Well, the Daytime levels are supposed to be the toughest ones, but it's been said before that they are kind of less difficult. So, I figured they could be done in any order. I wish you luck, however.

If you need to find solution help, I have videos on my channel in the "How To Solve It" category for this pack. https://www.youtube.com/@BradleyJ83

It's common here for levels to be rather difficult, so some practice may be great. I still can't solve harder levels myself, but I really am trying. Keep on trying as well, I know you can do it.

Guigui · April 23, 2025, 11:30:04 PM

Thanks for the reply Mobiethian.

The actual pattern I found for the difficulty in your Holiday Lemmings 2024 pack is rather simple :
* created by Mobiethian : fair difficulty, have fun. I loved the living-room themed levels, with the trap-cat

* created by Armani : get prepared for brain burning.

Still stuck at "The Bear Necessities" at the end of Nighttime. No matter how hard I turn it around to contain the crowd and dig through those 3 obstacles at the end, I always end up missing a single skill to complete. Hence the name maybe ? Just noticed the play on a word "bear/bare", maybe something to do with the bears at the beginning ? Still searching...

Mobiethian · April 24, 2025, 12:26:13 PM

You're very welcome!

So I watched the playthrough video of The Bear Necessities and it appears that it's a matter of digging down to clear the terrain. The rest of the crowd will be brought over section by section until a miner is used at the end of it to precisely allow a left diagonal path to the exit. As for the title, it may have something to do with the limited skill set? I'm not entirely sure.

I'm not an expert solver and usually struggle with Armani's clever levels.

However, I agree with you, my levels are fairly easy to do. This is because I'm still learning how to make difficult levels. Thanks for understanding this. heh My next level pack, so far, seems to be really difficult. But I hope that I was helpful enough, even though I don't think I have given enough solving tips, but I tried.

It's nice to have you here on the forums! Feel free to PM me anytime if you need anything. And I'm often available on the Lemmings Forums Discord.

Guigui · April 24, 2025, 06:17:10 PM

Ok got it. Did a little cheating since I watched your video, up to the point where it became different from all my previous attempts.
Turns out this "block and release the crowd with 2 diggers" occured to me, but I did not know how to do it since the digger needed to release also has to climb, and that climber I had always him stuck at the end part. That is some serious time and crowd management here, congrats to Armani for the design and kaywhyn for solving it.

Ok so, now on to Daytime...

Mobiethian · April 24, 2025, 07:15:27 PM

Nice! No problem there. Sometimes we gotta see the answers in the back of the book, so to speak. That's why the videos are there.

Good luck with Daytime, the first level requires thought. However, the order of the levels as far as difficulty goes, it's not exactly from easy to hard. Especially with my levels in there.

Guigui · Reply #14 - Re: Holiday Lemmings 2024

Oh come on, now bring Armani here ! Someone needs to fix his twisted brain.

Daytime lvl 1 took me ages to figure : survival of the fittest, or rather, suicidal or the least fit.

Then daytime lvl 2 starts and it takes me more than 5 minutes to actually understand what I have to do. Possibilities are endless here, and that righmost neutral is facing the wrong direction ?!? Twisted, twisted, twisted. Need a one week break from the game to even think about this level again.

(talking loud for sure, but I actually like doing this to me ; tough will have to aknowledge that I'm not at that solving level yet)