Revenge of the Lemmings - Level selection and ordering for v5

Started by Proxima, April 03, 2026, 03:02:47 PM

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What should we do with levels duplicated in other packs (e.g. MazuLems, Clammings, Insane Steve's World)?

Keep them in the level pool and just discard the less good ones
2 (50%)
Cut them down to about half as many
0 (0%)
Remove them all (maybe keep just one or two)
2 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 4

Voting closes: April 10, 2026, 03:02:47 PM

kaywhyn

Quote from: Proxima on April 04, 2026, 12:42:28 PMLem Dunk is possible to save all but one. It would almost certainly be possible to save 100% if the trapdoor order were 1 - 3 - 2, haven't verified this yet.

However, this depends on the RR being 25 in NeoLemmix, which is slower than the slowest possible RR in other engines, so that's something we would have to change anyway.

Ah, didn't notice the 25RR for the level in the v4.0 RotL pack.


Quote from: Proxima on April 04, 2026, 12:42:28 PMWillLem voted for keeping the Mazu / Clam / IS levels (and Betcha can't save is by IS) so I'm pretty sure he does want it considered for v5  :P
Quote from: WillLem on April 04, 2026, 01:44:58 PMThe lists I posted are just there to document my favourites, really. Of course I'd like to see them included, but I'm equally happy to leave level selection entirely up to Proxima; I'll ultimately back whatever he decides upon, even if it means some of my picks don't make the cut.


You were saying? :P

QuoteIt's a very tricky question, exactly how far it's okay to change other people's levels. As mobius listed in his post above, in v4 he changed a few levels to 10-of-all that weren't originally, and on the one hand, that is changing them from the author's intent, but on the other hand, the pack benefits from having some easy levels to start with. So I'd love to hear more people's opinions on what to do with those levels, and with the start of the pack in general.

This is a tricky one indeed. On the one hand, I definitely think the pack can do with having these easy X-of-everything levels at the start, but on the other hand, it does feel a bit strange to me with them being modified levels of the authors from their original intent. If the decision is fine for the pack to have repeats, then sure, keep the X-of-everything version of the harder repeat, I guess. If we don't want repeats, then I guess put the skill tutorial levels instead. It really can go either way quite honestly, and I don't have a strong preference for either one, though I think I'm leaning more towards the X-of-everything route, and I'm not saying that because I myself won't be making skill tutorial levels for my upcoming Lemmings Memories pack :P

QuoteI am completely against changing levels just to make 100% possible. That you can't save 100% on every level has always been part of the game. "Betcha can't save" is designed so that saving even one is difficult, and that shouldn't be messed with.

Completely agree here with both points, even the first one despite how I generally go for save all's as much as possible :P It's not L2 anyway, where it's been proven that it's possible to save all on all 120 levels of the game and even then it's still possible to get gold if you lose some depending on the level/tribe. I digress though.

My own level list and thoughts on the picks/preferences of those who posted still to come. Maybe at the end of the week or so.