Save One : do you have what it takes to save one Lemming ? (16 levels, medium)

Started by Guigui, September 06, 2025, 11:28:33 AM

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Guigui

Congrats on clearing ONE rank JawaJuice !

I did not have time to finish watching kaywhyn LP yet, and did not watch your solutions for ONE either. But from the comments alone I can say that the following :

ONE 2 Aquarium Deception backrouted by kaywhyn and JawaJuice. No nuke involved here. Solution is simpler and it did not occur to me that nuke was possible. You guys are crazy to even try this when the exit is so close to the hatch, you realize in 30 seconds that you dont have enough builders to go the long way, and most of all the level title tells you the Aquarium is a Deception

ONE 3 Clappy Clapple backrouted by kaywhyn and JawaJuice. My bad, backroute is obvious.

ONE 4 Clues Do backrouted by kaywhyn and JawaJuice. Compression of climbers not necessary, and kills the purpose of the level. I thought I had this covered, but you both beat me here.

ONE 5 Blues backrouted by at least JawaJuice. You're not supposed to save 3 here. Though it is funny to note that the core of the backroute solution you both gave for ONE 2 is the intended for ONE 5 !

ONE 6 The Blue Pi backrouted by kaywhyn. The athlete is the one that's supposed to go in, the way JawaJuice did. Then you can, as he said, sit back and enjoy your C.O.N.G.R.A.T.S


Now that this list is done comes the obvious conclusion : ONE rank needs yet another patch ! I should also apologize for presenting the rank as is, since it lead you to search solutions that are actually harder to pull off than what intended are, thus the frustration.

I'd say only ONE 5 may qualify as hard to execute bc it requires some precise timing at the end, though nothing as impossible as what you did in ONE 2 for instance.

So my next move is to make another update when time comes, then maybe release all intended solutions ? Not sure about that though, because I notice now that it is easier for people to find backroutes when they do not know intended, of course ! So I thank you for all being playtesters of the pack  :thumbsup:



Save One level pack : do you have what it takes to save one Lemming ?
16 levels of medium difficulty.
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=7216.0

Bravo jolie Ln, tu as trouvé : l'armée de l'air c'est là où on peut te tenir par la main.

JawaJuice

Ah Guigui, I think I owe you an apology re: my comments on ONE 2, then :D

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The nuke solution wasn't my absolute first idea actually :) that was to build over to the button on the left side, and inside the 'hatch room', build up through the ceiling to the hatch. However, this proved impossible as it takes a minimum of 8 builders to build up through the thin ceiling and a minimum of 8 to build over to the button, making for a total of 16, which you don't have! I also thought of building up through the ceiling in both directions, but again, ran out of builders!

Not surprised in the slightest that ONE 3 was a backroute!

I AM surprised ONE 4 was a backroute - that seemed like a pretty neat solution, if I do say so myself ;)

Also kinda surprised ONE 5 is a backroute - I just couldn't see any other way of getting the crowd close to the exit, and believe me, I spent hours on this one lol!

kaywhyn probably deserves some kind of prize for backrouting ONE 6 - that's an impressive feat requiring insane precision!

Spoiler
Just curious, is 'This is not a Lemmings puzzle' a subtle reference to Magritte's Ceci n'est pas une pipe? XD

I'll look forward to your updated levels! :thumbsup:


Guigui

Alright, now I finished watching carefully all the replays from you all, and the tremendous LP by kaywhyn.

I learned a lot from the replays, and have a very fun time watching kaywhyn playing my levels. Kaywhyn, it was a joy to hear your comments, to see you falling for most of the traps I set up and struggling on all the little details I put in there to avoid nasty backroutes :D

As already said, you and other players overcomplicated some stuffs, I'll most certainly write a PM to give some details and intended solutions on the most complicated stuff. Also, I need to defend my NEO 5 level, which both of you backrouted and dislkiked !  :lix-evil:

So now comes the time for a major revamp of the ONE rank, along with some levels in the other ranks. I'll be sure to post it here when it is done.

Finally, to honor the time and effort kaywhyn and JawaJuice put in solving some levels not the intended way  :thumbsup: , I join those levels and their crazy replays.
Those solutions will not work on the newer version of the levels to come  :evil:

ONE 4 Clues Do and ONE 6 The Blue Pi here :

Save One level pack : do you have what it takes to save one Lemming ?
16 levels of medium difficulty.
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=7216.0

Bravo jolie Ln, tu as trouvé : l'armée de l'air c'est là où on peut te tenir par la main.

Guigui


Save One level pack : do you have what it takes to save one Lemming ?
16 levels of medium difficulty.
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=7216.0

Bravo jolie Ln, tu as trouvé : l'armée de l'air c'est là où on peut te tenir par la main.

JawaJuice

What can I say? Having once stated on one of my early posts that I wasn't very good at discovering backroutes, I better change my slogan to 'If there's a backroute, I'll find it.' :XD: Just don't expect me to find your intended solution :P Honestly, I wouldn't even bother patching ONE 6 - no-one else would even attempt, let alone pull off, what kaywhyn did there!