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Offline geoo

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2021, 03:58:24 PM »
Technically, all questions are optional.
And if you skip, you pretty much always get the worst possible score.
Makes sense you get 0 here rather than -1 for skipping, but it didn't come to my mind at all, and I was surprised so many players opted for it even though it wasn't explicitly mentioned anywhere.

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I'm not a fan of the inverse scoring question type myself, although it was funny to see the results. The recursive reverse psychology is fun a few times, but it seems to me that in the end it comes down to luck. I could use a couple less.
Same here.

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I do have on my mental list of projects to work on writing something that lets me automatically write Family Feud results. I used to host Family Feud on another forum, but writing the results was a lot of work, and it seems like it could be automated fairly easily.
I wrote a script for that back in the day, see here and here (I'm not sure there's a difference between the two, but I linked both just in case.)

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2021, 04:02:17 PM »
I think inverse scoring questions work best when there are somewhere around 10-15 options. 4-5 is just too few and reduces it to luck.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2021, 04:27:30 PM »
Makes sense you get 0 here rather than -1 for skipping, but it didn't come to my mind at all, and I was surprised so many players opted for it even though it wasn't explicitly mentioned anywhere.
It actually was!
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+0.0 if off by 2 or if you do not answer this question
I wrote a script for that back in the day, see here and here (I'm not sure there's a difference between the two, but I linked both just in case.)
Thanks, that's great! Can I adopt that for other forums if I'd like to, at some point?

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2021, 10:35:19 PM »
Alright! It's time for Round 2!

Standard-Scoring Questions
1. Name a type of interactive object from Lemmings (any game).
2. Name a console mascot.
3. Name something you would use to cool yourself down.
4. Name a type of flower.
5. Name a car part.
6. Name a farm animal.
7. Name a shark movie.
8. Name something you should not eat.
9. Name something you might find in a dog's kennel.
10. Name a number, any number.

Inverse-Scoring Questions
11. Name a Grass-type starter pokemon (main series games only).
12. Name a letter of the English alphabet (not case-sensitive).
13. Name one of the official DOS Lemmings games with L1-style gameplay.
14. Name a country in the European Union.
15. 50/50 chance, heads or tails?

Special-Scoring Questions
16. Missile war!

You must choose a location to place your missile launcher on a 12x12 grid (top-left space is 0,0; bottom-right is 11,11). The grid is considered to wrap around. Two players' launchers may end up on the same spot.

Then, you must choose three different spaces to fire a missile at - the order matters. You may not fire at the space occupied by your own launcher, nor at a space horizontally or vertically adjacent to it.

The scoring is calculated in three "rounds". In each round, if you score a direct hit on another player's launcher, you gain 0.25 points. Otherwise, if you hit a space adjacent to another player's launcher horizontally or vertically (not diagonally), you gain 0.1 points. If, at the end of a round, a launcher has sustained one direct hit or two adjacent hits (the latter can be one each round, or two in the same round), it cannot fire any missiles in future rounds, but can still be hit by other players for further points.

To avoid doubt - the scoring in each round is 0.25 or 0.1 altogether; not 0.25 or 0.1 per launcher hit (in the case of multile adjacent launchers and/or multiple launchers on one spot).

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2021, 05:28:52 PM »
One is allowed to consult the web, right? Edit: I mean looking for for example a list of American presidents, not actually asking people on the web what their answer would be, or looking for another Family Feud game with the same question.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2021, 06:11:52 PM »
Yes, web searches are allowed. There is the risk of researching too deply, then giving a very good factual asnwer that ends unpopular because nobody else researched that much.

It's merely discouraged to discuss answers with other players before the end of the round.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2021, 03:26:20 AM »
As a heads up, I will be closing entries in about 24 hours.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2021, 07:19:14 PM »
Entries are now closed. Results will follow shortly.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2021, 09:01:31 PM »
Please note that values used in this post are rounded to max 2 decimal places, but adding up total score was done with the unrounded values. A spreadsheet of the results is attached if you want to see exact values.

Standard-Scoring Questions

1. Name a type of interactive object from Lemmings (any game).
Exit (1pt) - Crane, Dullstar, Gronkling, Minim, namida, Simon, WillLem
Trap (0.43pt) - 607, Flopsy, IchoTolot
Water (0.14pt) - geoo

2. Name a console mascot.
Mario (1pt) - 607, Crane, Flopsy, Gronkling, IchoTolot, Simon, WillLem
Sonic (0.57pt) - Dullstar, geoo, Minim, namida

3. Name something you would use to cool yourself down.
Fan (1pt) - Crane, Flopsy, Gronkling, namida, WillLem
Water (0.6pt) - 607, geoo, IchoTolot
Air conditioner (0.2pt) - Dullstar
Bath (0.2pt) - Minim
Shower (0.2pt) - Simon

4. Name a type of flower.
Daffodil (1pt) - Crane, Minim, WillLem
Rose (1pt) - 607, Flopsy, IchoTolot
Sunflower (0.67pt) - namida, Simon
Daisy (0.33pt) - Gronkling
Lily (0.33pt) - geoo
Tulip (0.33pt) - Dullstar

5. Name a car part.
Engine (1pt) - 607, Crane, Dullstar, Flopsy, Gronkling, namida
Steering wheel (0.33pt) - Simon, WillLem
Wheel (0.33pt) - geoo, Minim
Tire (0.17pt) - IchoTolot

6. Name a farm animal.
Cow (1pt) - 607, Crane, Dullstar, geoo, Gronkling, IchoTolot, namida, Simon, WillLem
Pig (0.22pt) - Flopsy, Minim

7. Name a shark movie.
Jaws (1pt) - 607, Crane, Flopsy, geoo, Gronkling, Minim, WillLem
Sharknado (0.57pt) - Dullstar, IchoTolot, namida, Simon

8. Name something you should not eat.
Poison (1pt) - Flopsy, IchoTolot, namida, Simon
Cyanide (0.5pt) - Dullstar, geoo
Dog poop (0.25pt) - Crane
Meat (0.25pt) - Minim
Poop (0.25pt) - 607
Quizmaster (0.25pt) - Gronkling

9. Name something you might find in a dog's kennel.
Bone (1pt) - Crane, Flopsy, geoo, Minim
Dog (1pt) - 607, Gronkling, namida, WillLem
Bowl (0.25pt) - Simon
Puppy pads (0.25pt) - Dullstar
Water bowl (0.25pt) - IchoTolot

10. Name a number, any number.
1 (1pt) - Crane, Flopsy, Minim, namida
0 (0.5pt) - 607, geoo
7 (0.5pt) - Dullstar, Gronkling
10 (0.25pt) - Simon
16 (0.25pt) - WillLem
69 (0.25pt) - IchoTolot

Inverse-Scoring Questions

11. Name a Grass-type starter pokemon (main series games only).
Chikorita (1pt) - namida
Grookey (1pt) - Gronkling
Rowlet (1pt) - WillLem
Snivy (1pt) - geoo
Turtwig (1pt) - Simon
Bulbasaur (0.5pt) - IchoTolot, Minim
Chespin (0.25pt) - 607, Crane, Dullstar, Flopsy

12. Name a letter of the English alphabet (not case-sensitive).
E (1pt) - geoo
F (1pt) - namida
J (1pt) - Dullstar
L (1pt) - Crane
W (1pt) - WillLem
Y (1pt) - Flopsy
A (0.5pt) - IchoTolot, Minim
O (0.33pt) - 607, Gronkling, Simon

13. Name one of the official DOS Lemmings games with L1-style gameplay.
Holiday Lemmings 94 (1pt) - Gronkling
Oh No! More Lemmings! (1pt) - Minim
Prima Publishing Lemmings (1pt) - geoo
Xmas Lemmings 91 (1pt) - Dullstar
Lemmings (0.5pt) - IchoTolot, WillLem
Xmas Lemmings 92 (0.5pt) - namida, Simon
Holiday Lemmings 93 (0.33pt) - 607, Crane, Flopsy

14. Name a country in the European Union.
Estonia (1pt) - geoo
France (1pt) - Minim
Greece (1pt) - WillLem
Ireland (1pt) - Crane
Latvia (1pt) - Gronkling
Lithuania (1pt) - 607
Luxembourg (1pt) - IchoTolot
Malta (1pt) - Dullstar
Slovenia (1pt) - Flopsy
Spain (1pt) - namida
Sweden (1pt) - Simon

15. 50/50 chance, heads or tails?
Heads (1pt) - Crane, Flopsy, geoo, namida, Simon
Tails (0.83pt) - 607, Dullstar, Gronkling, IchoTolot, Minim, WillLem

Special-Scoring Questions

16. Missile war!
There is a second sheet on the attached spreadsheet that shows the initial configuration, as well as a round-by-round breakdown, of the Missile War minigame. I have also attached screenshots of this sheet, for those who don't want to bother downloading and opening the entire sheet just to see it.

In the first round:
- (0.1) geoo scored an adjacent hit on Flopsy
- (0.1) namida scored an adjacent hit on WillLem

In the second round:
- (0.25) namida scored a direct hit on Simon, destroying his launcher
- (0.1) geoo scored adjacent hits on both 607 and WillLem, destroying the latter's launcher
- (0.1) Simon scored an adjacent hit on namida

In the third round:
- (0.25) Gronkling scored a direct hit on IchoTolot, destroying his launcher
- (0.25) Minim scored a direct hit on Gronkling, destroying his launcher
- (0.1) Crane scored an adjacent hit on 607, destroying his launcher
- Simon and WillLem were unable to fire due to their launchers being destroyed in earlier rounds

Altogether, scores from the missile war are:
- 0.35pt for namida (1 direct + 1 adjacent)
- 0.25pt for Gronkling, Minim (1 direct each)
- 0.2pt for geoo (2 adjacent)
- 0.1pt for Crane, Simon (1 adjacent each)
- 0pt for 607, Dullstar, Flopsy, IchoTolot, WillLem (no hits)

While not relevant to scoring, the end-game status of everyone's launcher:
- Crane, Dullstar, geoo and Minim's launchers were not hit at all
- Flopsy and namida's launchers suffered a single adjacent hit, so survived the game overall
- 607, Gronkling, IchoTolot, Simon and WillLem's launchers were destroyed

Final Results

namida     13.66
Crane      12.93
Gronkling  12.50
Flopsy     12.23
WillLem    12.17
geoo       11.18
Minim      10.66
607        10.53
Simon      10.20
Dullstar   10.01
IchoTolot   9.60


I would like to pass the next round over to someone else - Crane perhaps?

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2021, 12:54:48 AM »
Me? Um... okay, but give me a moment, or 10...

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2021, 09:48:56 PM »
Wow, I really botched the first 5 questions here.
1. For some reason in my mind the question asked for a kind of trap, and so I answered accordingly x_x Similar to me overlooking to option to not answer Q16 from last round.
5. I thought there are too many things under the hood of a car to pick one unique outstanding thing from there...but I guess engine kinda does stand out from there?
10. I'm surprised not to see a single '42' answer here... Also people indexing their arrays from 1 rather than 0, boo!
13. I'm surprised I'm the only one to go with Prima Publishing/Covox. I thought a good portion of players wouldn't know about these, but some of those who do would go for it for the obscurity factor.

Thanks, that's great! Can I adopt that for other forums if I'd like to, at some point?
Sorry, forgot to respond to this. Absolutely, feel free to.

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Re: Family Feud 2021
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2021, 02:26:53 PM »
Thanks for the permission, geoo. :)

My reactions:
Huh, I wasn't expecting Engine to do so well! I'm also surprised that anyone named some other than Jaws for question 7. :P What makes Daffodil pickable? Yes hahaha, I am so glad Dog did well! As I said in my pm: "To be honest, I think 'bone' and 'food bowl' might be more likely winners, but this is so good of an obvious answer that I do not want to risk not having picked it when it does win. :P" And for question 10: "It's hard not to go with 607, but I think that I am not enough of an icon here to have it be the first number that comes to people's minds. On my main forum I would be, I imagine." It's interesting that 1 beat 0. Wasn't expecting that on a forum with so many mathematically minded people. ;)
Lol, I love how I got the lowest score on every single one of the inverse scoring questions. xD