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Offline Colorful Arty

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Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« on: April 01, 2016, 06:51:56 pm »
Hello, friends!

For those of you who aren't familiar with this pack, Reverse Lemmings is a pack containing the 120 levels from the original Amiga Lemmings, but with the entrances and exits swapped and different skill assignments for the levels.

Development for this pack is slower than I thought. I made these levels originally for LemmixPlayer, and then just transferred them to Lemmini, and now SuperLemmini. Somewhere in the transferring process, some things got messed up. Here are the things I still need to do before I can release this pack.

First, I need to remove all of the unused space from the levels, simply for the sake of making them prettier. I also have to make sure the level starts focused on the new entrance rather than the original entrance. These are both aspects I did not expect I would have to do, because the levels were focused for LemmixPlayer, but SuperLemmini has a higher pixel density, making the screen start WAY OFF sometimes. SuperLemmini also allows for customizable level sizes, so I want to remove as much extra space as possible, since that's the way people like it. :)

Finally, when I made these levels, I was still a Lemmings novice. So now, playing through these old levels, I am finding tons of backroutes, thanks to my new knowledge, as well as the precision you can perform in SuperLemmini. (I designed the levels to be completed without being able to select a specific lemming out of a group or replaying levels) Needless to say, this has made for some levels being ludicrously easy, even in the Taxing and Mayhem ratings, which I will try to fix.

That said, most of the changes are minimal, but will just take some time, and with me trying to juggle this, SubLems, my Let's Play channel, and college, it may be a while before this pack comes out. Fun and Tricky are pretty much finished though. :D
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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2016, 09:27:01 pm »
One level you will come across while doing the levelpack is Mayhem 3, "It's hero time!". Looking at the level in reverse, it's impossible to solve with a 1-minute time limit let alone with 1 of each skill. I'm just wondering what modifications are you thinking of taking to make this level solvable.
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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2016, 09:39:53 pm »
I am aware of that. I'm also allowing myself to adjust the time limit if necessary (or WAY too strict to the point that it isn't fun anymore) as well as the release rate. I'll try to only change the release rate if it's necessary for a really awesome solution though.
My Youtube channel where I let's play games with family-friendly commentary:
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My levelpack: SubLems
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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2016, 06:16:59 am »
This pack sounds like a great idea, I will certainly be keeping an eye on this project eventhough I'm not a Lemmini user.

Something that comes to mind immediately is what happens in the case of Not as Complicated as it looks or Turn Around Young Lemmings because they have the exit and trapdoor next to each other, the level would essentially solve itself!
Lost Something? - the exit is hidden, the trapdoor can't be hidden if you swap them.
Lemming Sanctuary in sight almost solves itself as well because the Lemmings can walk down the gaps to the bottom.

Just some things that come to mind when I think of reverse Lemmings...
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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 01:58:46 pm »
Those are all really good points. However, you will find I have found ways around them. In fact, King of the Castle (the sequel to Lemming sanctuary in sight) is one of my favorite levels in Taxing. :D

I also found a way to make turn around young lemmings! not solve itself despite the reverse nature of the level.
My Youtube channel where I let's play games with family-friendly commentary:
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My levelpack: SubLems
For NeoLemmix: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2787.0
For SuperLemmini: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2704.0

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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2016, 10:42:08 pm »
Hello everyone! :D

Reverse Lemmings is almost complete! The only thing I have left to do is make sure the levels are properly focused when you start, and the initial version should be ready to be released! :thumbsup:

My one question is, when I release this pack, should I provide a download on this page, or create a new page for the download?
My Youtube channel where I let's play games with family-friendly commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiRPZ5j87ft_clSRLFCESQA

My levelpack: SubLems
For NeoLemmix: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2787.0
For SuperLemmini: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2704.0

Upcoming levelpack: ArtLems
Development Topic: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=3166.0

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Re: Reverse Lemmings: "Custom" levelpack
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2016, 11:16:43 pm »
Hello everyone! :D

Reverse Lemmings is almost complete! The only thing I have left to do is make sure the levels are properly focused when you start, and the initial version should be ready to be released! :thumbsup:

My one question is, when I release this pack, should I provide a download on this page, or create a new page for the download?

I have gotten myself a Dropbox for my stuff. Then I simply post the download-link here.

Tipp: Replace the 0 at the end of the dropbox-download-link with a 1 and it will be a direct-download instead of one where they have a sign-in popup ;)

If you mean this topic, feel free to create an extra release topic.  If the first post has all the important stuff like link + description, it is always better.
You can use my Reunion topic as an example: http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=2175.0