Author Topic: Favourite Lemmings Music Version (Read 20354 times)

Dullstar · « **on:** June 05, 2009, 06:02:56 AM »

So, what's YOUR favourite? _{I like the DOS TGA music.}
I change my vote... I like the Amiga version's better.

The Doctor · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2009, 06:26:02 AM »

Mine is presently PSP.

Mr Kiwi · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2009, 06:30:51 AM »

GuyPerfect · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:05:52 AM »

Goin' for Amiga on this one.

On a related note, I like the arrangements of the DOS ONML music better than Amiga, but the Amiga versions have better sound...

Dullstar · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2009, 10:00:52 PM »

Ah, but 8 bit and sound blaster are both classics!

DragonsLover · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2009, 08:07:54 AM »

What do you mean by Dos VGA and Dos TGA?

The Doctor · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2009, 08:10:48 AM »

Yeah, correct terminology would be Tandy sound and AdLib sound.

DragonsLover · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2009, 10:03:35 AM »

Okay, right.

I just listened to the Tandy musics and well, they sound like the ST ones.

Amiga music is classic and has way better instruments than any other versions I guess.

However, I was impressed by the PC Engine musics. They sound good too.

danparker · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2009, 07:57:00 PM »

Well, my favorite music port for Lemmings and Oh no, more lemmings is the DOS version. I still remember it.

The Doctor · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2009, 08:31:52 AM »

AdLib or Tandy sound, danparker?

Dullstar · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2009, 11:51:04 PM »

I've always felt like the music needs to fit the level of the game graphics. That's why I generally like either version of DOS music better.

Quote from: Jason on 2009-06-30 02:31:52

AdLib or Tandy sound, danparker?

You may already know this, but if not, VGA is AdLib.

The Doctor · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2009, 12:20:58 AM »

No, VGA is not AdLib. VGA is a graphical display standard devised by IBM. AdLib is sound hardware, and a standard to which SoundBlaster cards implemented.

ccexplore · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2009, 01:51:12 AM »

Dullstar may be referring to the fact that in DOS Lemmings, you're stuck with adlib music if you want to play the game with VGA graphics, unless you used my hacked version of adlib.dat I posted somewhere on the forum.

Dullstar · « **Reply #13 on:** July 04, 2009, 05:10:01 AM »

Quote from: Dullstar on 2009-07-02 17:51:04

You may already know this, but if not, VGA is AdLib.

I was talking about the sound. There are some people who think that AdLib sound is just VGA sound. Should of thought of that when I posted that

Minim · « **Reply #14 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:06:25 PM »

I like the PSP version. The tunes based on different styles and that's the bit I like the most (With the occasional exception of Mountain, CanCan and the classic one)

Pooty · « **Reply #15 on:** September 01, 2009, 04:34:07 PM »

Another vote added to the Sega Master System's music.

Minim · « **Reply #16 on:** September 01, 2009, 05:15:01 PM »

I've put a link up to show different music types for each console. Maybe this site could change your vote.

http://www.codiekitty.com/LEM/Music/index.htm

Pooty · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2009, 06:58:14 PM »

It hasn't, though that's the first time i've ever heard the PC Engine's music. I perfer the SMS version, but the PC Engine seems to have a very interesting sound system. I was expecting it to use something like square waves.

Dullstar · « **Reply #18 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:39:26 AM »

I wonder what system the "other" vote is?

ccexplore · « **Reply #19 on:** September 02, 2009, 04:50:18 AM »

Well, one notable absence on the list above is the Atari ST version, it, Amiga and DOS being the first 3 ports of Lemmings released. And remember, Lemmings have been ported to just about every system on the planet. Just off top of my head, here're a bunch of systems not mentioned in the list:

Commodore 64
Phillips CD-I
there's a CD-ROM version of Lemmings for DOS that actually has the music as audio tracks in the CD (and I don't mean mere recordings of the adlib/TGA music, but music specially made for the CD version).
Windows (you've heard this if you heard the MIDI versions of Lemmings music from the XXXLemmus styles for Cheapo)
Macintosh
Nintendo (as in the old 8-bit NES/Famicom, not Super Nintendo)
Acorn Archimedes

Granted, I haven't heard the music on many of these systems listed above, so some of them might be very similar to the ones listed in the poll.

Minim · « **Reply #20 on:** September 02, 2009, 07:07:20 AM »

Quote from: ccexplore on 2009-09-01 22:50:18

Windows (you've heard this if you heard the MIDI versions of Lemmings music from Cheapo)

I'm interested as to what the tracks are from Cheapo, mind you they have also been copied to "Copycat Lemmings" I've given the link below. The copycat clone is at the bottom of this page.

http://camanis.net/lemmings/clones.php

ccexplore · « **Reply #21 on:** September 02, 2009, 07:59:23 AM »

Quote from: minimac94 on 2009-09-02 01:07:20

Quote from: ccexplore on 2009-09-01 22:50:18
Windows (you've heard this if you heard the MIDI versions of Lemmings music from Cheapo)

I'm interested as to what the tracks are from Cheapo, mind you they have also been copied to "Copycat Lemmings"

Sorry, I was not being clear. I don't mean the MIDIs that came with Cheapo/Copycat Lemmings.

There were a set of styles made for Cheapo that were essentially clones of the styles in original Lemmings, with names ending with "Lemmus" (eg. FireLemmus for the "Hell" style, CrystalLemmus, etc.). The music in all those styles are the MIDI version of Lemmings music from the Windows port. That's what I was referring to.

namida · « **Reply #22 on:** September 02, 2009, 11:58:44 AM »

Quote from: minimac94 on 2009-09-01 11:15:01

I've put a link up to show different music types for each console. Maybe this site could change your vote.

http://www.codiekitty.com/LEM/Music/index.htm

The one you've titled "Take Good Care Of My Lemmings" is based on "Pachelbel's Canon".

Dullstar · « **Reply #23 on:** September 04, 2009, 11:47:03 PM »

HE mislabeled it? I don't know if he runs the site... maybe he doesn't!!!

Minim · « **Reply #24 on:** September 05, 2009, 07:46:04 AM »

The answer is.. I don't!

I didn't create the site, I came here to put the link up instead.

Dullstar · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:34:05 AM »

Don't we have some newer members who might be interested in this?

On topic, though, I change my vote to "Amiga." If you haven't noticed, the poll is configured so you can change it.

danparker · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2009, 04:30:26 AM »

Quote from: Jason on 2009-06-30 02:31:52

AdLib or Tandy sound, danparker?

Actually, I'm not really sure.

finlay · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:49:17 AM »

Quote from: ccexplore on 2009-09-01 22:50:18

Well, one notable absence on the list above is the Atari ST version, it, Amiga and DOS being the first 3 ports of Lemmings released. And remember, Lemmings have been ported to just about every system on the planet. Just off top of my head, here're a bunch of systems not mentioned in the list:

Commodore 64
Phillips CD-I
there's a CD-ROM version of Lemmings for DOS that actually has the music as audio tracks in the CD (and I don't mean mere recordings of the adlib/TGA music, but music specially made for the CD version).
Windows (you've heard this if you heard the MIDI versions of Lemmings music from the XXXLemmus styles for Cheapo)
Macintosh
Nintendo (as in the old 8-bit NES/Famicom, not Super Nintendo)
Acorn Archimedes

Granted, I haven't heard the music on many of these systems listed above, so some of them might be very similar to the ones listed in the poll.

Sorry about the thread resurrection; I just wanted to add that the Mac version has very similar music to the Amiga (to the point that I can only tell the difference because I've heard it all a million times), and the PS1 version has good CD-quality music on it, which sounds like it's actually been played with instruments. But it's not as good!

Gronkling · « **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:47:36 AM »

The Commodore 64 music is my favourite. If your not sure what it sounds like theres a video with some on here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaDW6OU-57c&feature=related

Clam · « **Reply #29 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:21:11 AM »

Hey, I still haven't voted in this one.

I grew up with the DOS version (VGA), so that's the only one I really know. The Amiga version may be "better" in terms of sound quality or whatever, but to me it just sounds off. So DOS it is.

finlay · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2011, 02:22:28 AM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-02-22 19:49:17

Sorry about the thread resurrection; I just wanted to add that the Mac version has very similar music to the Amiga (to the point that I can only tell the difference because I've heard it all a million times), and the PS1 version has good CD-quality music on it, which sounds like it's actually been played with instruments. But it's not as good!

I've just been listening around on Youtube - what I think is that the PS1 version was based on the Windows version, but actually mastered properly, so it sounds way better than the MIDI versions that I'm hearing on Youtube. The Mac version has slightly different tempo to the Amiga version (usually slightly faster) and only sounds different in a small number of the tunes, like "Lemmings 1".

The Amiga version of ONML, however, sounds really flat and boring compared to the Mac version that I grew up with – the music was properly updated for ONML in a way that it wasn't for Lemmings.

finlay · « **Reply #31 on:** May 30, 2011, 12:19:59 AM »

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15543016/ONMLmacmusic.zip

Pursuant to my earlier remarks, I've just recorded the ONML music off the Mac version (after getting it working on an emulator - dammit Apple with your migrating to intel chips

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Hope you enjoy.

Maybe I should put them on youtube... Meh. Anyway, you might notice that track 6 is apparently track 4 in other versions. I dunno why.

ccexplore · « **Reply #32 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:06:24 AM »

I've heard both versions ages ago and I don't honestly remember the Mac version being all that enhanced over the Amiga version. I guess I'll take a listen again later this week and see.

DragonsLover · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:37:25 AM »

I may be weird, but I somewhat really like the ST music of Lemmings 2, especially the second part of the "Classical" tribe song (the song of "Just dig" from the Dos vga version), the second part of the "Circus" tribe song and the "Sports" tribe song. Sure, it's SNDH chipset, which sounds like 8bit music, but still, I love them and even prefer some of them than Amiga.

finlay · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2011, 01:00:51 PM »

Quote from: ccexplore on 2011-05-29 21:06:24

I've heard both versions ages ago and I don't honestly remember the Mac version being all that enhanced over the Amiga version. I guess I'll take a listen again later this week and see.

They're completely different, man.

Maybe you're thinking of the Original Lemmings soundtrack, which only has about 2 tracks which are noticeably different. YMMV on whether it's "enhanced" or "better", I guess.

ccexplore · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2011, 04:24:45 PM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-02-24 20:22:28

The Amiga version of ONML, however, sounds really flat and boring compared to the Mac version that I grew up with – the music was properly updated for ONML in a way that it wasn't for Lemmings.

I had a quick listen. I think they enhanced the harmony in some places in the Mac version, and the Mac version tends to have better sustained notes than the Amiga, although the Amiga version seems to emphasize bass and percussion a little more. Some of it might be due to differences in hardware capabilities--I don't know the specs of Mac sound hardware off top of my head, but I have to imagine that it's probably at least slightly better compared with the Amiga which came out years earlier?

Keep in mind also that for the Amiga version, make sure you have good settings for audio emulation so you at least get optimal sound quality, independent of issues of quality in instruments and arrangements. For example in WinUAE you should enable the audio filter in the sound settings.

I'll have to do the comparative listening of the original Lemmings later, I thought they did at least updated the instruments in the Mac version of Lemmings, even if they didn't actually do any updating in the notes themselves. I think because of that, I didn't really perceive the differences as being dramatically more so in ONML vs Lemmings. Also, with me coming from playing the DOS version, the kinds of difference between DOS music and Amiga/Mac dwarfs the differences of Amiga vs Mac, so I'm probably not as tuned to the differences you'd easily pick up growing up on the Mac music.

Seems like the fair thing now is to post all the Amiga and Mac music for Lemmings and ONML up for people to compare. $:-\$ Maybe later this week.

finlay · « **Reply #36 on:** May 30, 2011, 04:49:29 PM »

I haven't got an emulator, I've just been listening to it on Youtube or Lemmix.

ccexplore · « **Reply #37 on:** May 31, 2011, 03:06:08 PM »

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/7/15/2915232/ONML-Amiga.zip

note: included versions w/ or w/o the filter, which if I recall correctly can be controlled (on the actual Amiga, though WinUAE also suports it via settings) by the user via a hardware switch. In the case of ONML music, I think it's much better with filter OFF (so I stand corrected from my earlier post). The filter smooths out the sounds by attenuating the persistent high-frequency "sizzle" (could partly be an emulation artifact though), but at an adverse cost of muting the mostly brass instruments used in Amiga ONML music (it seems the filter is a low-pass type that emphasizes bass while attenuating higher frequencies), making them sound duller, less bright and "brassy".

In the process of doing the MP3s, I have done an actual, careful side-by-side comparison. It turns out in terms of the arrangement of notes (not instruments), the Mac version is actually almost identical to the DOS version. The Amiga version on the other hand consistently has shortened the music, and has indeed tend to simplify the accompaniment part by for example replacing runs of short, fast notes with fewer, longer notes. It seems there's some undetermined need to have each music in Amiga fit in under a minute. The shortening of course means there's more repetition which is definitely a bad point.

The Mac version generally has brighter sounds emphasizing higher frequencies, while the Amiga version generally has more emphasis on lower frequencies and percussions, so ultimately both have strengths and weaknesses. I did notice though that the Amiga version's instrumentation appears to be somewhat more limited compared to the Mac version, with mostly brass instruments featured in almost if not all 6 songs. Also some of the Mac's instruments may be sampled at higher quality (this might be a hardware limitation, as I know Amiga is limited to 8-bit samples, while the Mac might support 16-bit, I don't know), although that's not to say the Mac doesn't have "bad" instruments (eg. not particularly a fan of the "wa-wa"-ish instrument used in Mac #4's main melody for example, especially at the higher notes).

In the end, I have to agree that the Amiga loses out particularly for the shortening of the songs and the more limited palette of instruments featured. One exception is #6, where I definitely vastly favor the Amiga version over Mac and DOS versions (for some reason, the Mac and DOS versions buck the trend on that one, and has simplified harmonies and accompaniment compared with the Amiga version).

finlay · « **Reply #38 on:** May 31, 2011, 04:57:06 PM »

I don't like the Mac #6. I have actually judged levels which use it a little bit negatively, and I'm fairly sure I used to try and avoid it when I was younger. #4 is probably my favourite, though.

I don't particularly like the fact that on the Amiga a whole opening section of it was missing. And yeah, when I listened to the DOS music, it sounded a lot more familiar despite using very different sounds.

The thing about ONML, though, at the end of the day, is that there are so few tracks that they get quite tedious to listen to after a while. Lemmings 1 has a bit more variety.

On the subject of different versions, I'm thinking of taking screenshots of the Mac levels, if I have the time. Would you be interested?

ccexplore · « **Reply #39 on:** May 31, 2011, 07:35:20 PM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-05-31 10:57:06

On the subject of different versions, I'm thinking of taking screenshots of the Mac levels, if I have the time. Would you be interested?

I guess you could do one per graphics set. I'm not aware of any Mac-specific differences like the graffiti changes in SNES Lemmings US version for example, but I don't know much in-depth about the Mac version of course. I'm thinking one per graphics set should be enough to convey the general updating of the graphics to high resolution. Of course, it's your time to kill so do whatever makes you happy.

finlay · « **Reply #40 on:** May 31, 2011, 08:35:03 PM »

The only major one is Tricky 21. And those damn stalks in Mayhem 26. I've still not worked out why they can't climb over them – the system it uses for working out when a lemming can climb over something isn't as transparent, because I'm pretty sure they can't stand on one-pixel bits of floor (if that makes sense...)

I've noted specific-level differences in my spreadsheet – basically the Mac version was reduced to a maximum of 80 lemmings, in exactly the same way as the DOS version, but the DOS version made a few extra changes here and there, like Mayhem 3 to 25 lemmings, Mayhem 26 to a goal of 60/80 rather than 72/80 (

), Taxing 22 and Mayhem 4 to a goal of 40/50 – Mayhem 4 is 100/100 on the Amiga and 80/80 on the Mac.

Also the Hell tileset exit looks completely different because it has big white eyes and no horns. actually, i already have a screenshot of that. (edit: adding a screenshot of the DOS version from Lemedit for comparison)

ccexplore · « **Reply #41 on:** May 31, 2011, 09:18:08 PM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-05-31 14:35:03

And those damn stalks in Mayhem 26. I've still not worked out why they can't climb over them – the system it uses for working out when a lemming can climb over something isn't as transparent, because I'm pretty sure they can't stand on one-pixel bits of floor (if that makes sense...)

I've actually at some point ages ago started some preliminary disassembling of Mac Lemmings programming, and had worked that specific question out.

In summary, the Mac doubles the pixel resolution horizontally and vertically, but the movement mechanics is still completely in low-res, meaning that for example whereas a lemming advances one pixel horizontally per frame update in low-res, in Mac-res they advances 2 pixels horizontally per update, since 2 pixels in Mac equals 1 pixel in low-res. Whenever the mechanics needs to check a single pixel in low-res to see if it is terrain or not, in Mac-res it insteads checks the corresponding 2x2 block of pixels, and treat the block as terrain if at least 3 of 4 pixels are terrain, otherwise it is air. (Note: I might've remembered wrong and it's 2 of 4 instead of 3/4, will verify later tonight when back home.)

Thus it doesn't really surprise me that things like Mayhem 26 can happen. You are more likely to add than subtract pixels to smooth out curves when upping the resolution, which then means there's a higher chance of pixels that act as air in low-res now becoming terrain instead. It is indeed more surprising that there aren't more levels affected similarly to Mayhem 26.

[edit: actually on further thought, it makes sense why the system still mostly preserved the original properties of the low-res terrain in most cases. It's true that you tend to add more pixels in hi-res to smooth curves out, but with the 3/4 rule, you'll have to add at least 3 hi-res pixels in a 2x2 block in order for something that used to be air to become terrain, whereas for curve-smoothing you typically only need to add 1 or 2.]

finlay · « **Reply #42 on:** May 31, 2011, 10:58:27 PM »

I basically knew that but had never confirmed it properly.

Taxing 13 has one or two stalks that you have to bash through near the exit, and I've not played it on the DOS version to confirm or deny whether it has the same problem (from the screenshot, it looks like it doesn't. But remind me, does it take 6 or 7 pixels to block a lemming from jumping up?). But then the DOS version has the miner/one-way arrow bug, so you win some, you lose some. Mayhem 26 may well be the only one that you ever hear about. Plus, most levels have more square bricks – it's only really that tileset that has a lot of places where it'd be affected.

One thing that's annoying is that you sometimes can't tell if a lemming will fall through something or not. Take this screenshot of the no-builders solution for Tricky 11, which I completed a few years ago. It took me quite a while because if the miner is like one pixel further to the right, the lemmings fall through; yet there's still an unbroken line of pixels (presumably, one group of 4 pixels isn't counted as a whole one or something). It becomes unambiguous only if you view it with the old lo-res graphics*

Also, the only other level I can think of that was affected by the graphics is Havoc 16, the screenshot for which I posted somewhere else. Basically, this is because the designers of the level got a rock shape and filled in the gaps to make the wall straight with other rock pieces. On the Mac they're rounded in such a way that the rock shapes don't fill each other's gaps. What I would have done would be to take a straight piece like a metal or crystal block and make it black in order to make a perfectly straight wall.

*It's also worth noting that upon coming up to two blocks that are only just touching at a corner, like this:

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a lemming walking along the left hand block will fall through the gap. I actually only discovered this recently because it's absolutely not clear at all on the Mac...

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Edit: thought of another example of a difference, although a minor one: on the type of spike that I've attached a picture of, lemmings will turn around at that little notch on the left in the DOS version but will jump up onto it on the Mac version (they still can't climb over it entirely, though).

Mr. K · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:08:49 AM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-05-31 14:35:03

Also the Hell tileset exit looks completely different because it has big white eyes and no horns. actually, i already have a screenshot of that. (edit: adding a screenshot of the DOS version from Lemedit for comparison)

Totally getting off-topic here, but this apparently wasn't always the case. I had a Mac Performa 600 in the early 90s and it came with a software sampler disc that had a Lemmings demo on it. As I recall, the exit in the one Hell level they included is normal. I remember downloading the full version a few years back and being weirded out that the exit looked different (to the point that I thought it was a hacked copy or something like that ) -- I should go check it out.

EDIT: Okay, that wasn't it. I know I've seen the correct exit graphics in some Mac version... I'll keep digging through my old stuff.

finlay · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:57:29 AM »

I don't think you have. I remember the demo I had very well, because I learnt the game on it – down to what music it used and everything, which is probably very sad of me. It had Fun 2, Tricky 9, Taxing 4 and Mayhem 18, anyway. I know of another demo that has Fun 7, Tricky 1, Taxing 14 and Mayhem 16. Not to say that another one couldn't possibly exist, but if it did, I feel like I'd have heard about it!

Mr. K · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2011, 03:37:43 AM »

Wait, demos with only four levels?

Mine has twelve! It was a later demo that was flaunting all the awards the game had gotten. Can't remember which levels specifically other than Tricky 1, Tricky 3 (possibly), Tricky 22, Taxing 2, Taxing 22, Mayhem 2... eh, I should probably go downstairs and boot the Mac up again and get an official list. Or just copy the whole thing over so we can all peruse it.
It has one unique level, as the second Fun level-- called The Apple Computer Level-- it's just a huge rainbow Apple logo and you can seriously win the level by just taking your hands off the mouse... they'll walk right into the exit at the base of the apple.

finlay · « **Reply #46 on:** June 01, 2011, 09:20:53 AM »

nowai why would i have never heard of this

ccexplore · « **Reply #47 on:** June 02, 2011, 11:35:51 PM »

So Mr. K, have you gotten your 12-level demo working? Really looking forward to see The Apple Computer Level.

Or maybe I'll try Google and see if it finds your demo, after all it's how I once obtained the Mac version of Lemmings and the Mac emulator for PC (Executor).

Kornhead21 · « **Reply #48 on:** June 09, 2011, 02:17:17 PM »

hey, I couldn't find the "Introduce yourself" section or if there even is one.

I've been a fan of Lemmings since I was little. the proof? I actually own copies of Lemmings on the NES, SNES, Genesis, Game Gear (which is pretty much like the Master System), Gameboy, PSP, Playstation, and DOS (don't know which version).
I also own other Lemmings games like Lemmings 2: The Tribes for SNES and Genesis, 3D Lemmings (or Lemmings 3D, whatever way it is) on Windows (PC) and Playstation, Lemmings Revolution on Windows (PC), and Lemmings Paintball which actually also contains the Windows version of Lemmings (plus ON!ML).

anyways, to keep on this topic, my favorite music version would be the Sega Genesis

Nortaneous · « **Reply #49 on:** June 12, 2011, 10:22:49 AM »

Found the music from the PC CD version on Youtube. Here's Lemming1 / Canon in D.

Also, what was this used for? I never heard it, or the version without the sound effects, in the game.

ccexplore · « **Reply #50 on:** June 12, 2011, 11:08:55 AM »

Quote from: Nortaneous on 2011-06-12 04:22:49

Also, what was this used for? I never heard it, or the version without the sound effects, in the game.

It's the music that accompanies the intro sequence, for versions of the game that has one. For example here's Amiga's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnR8DIR5Rx4 (skip to 0:28)

The PC DOS version never has it, and I guess no one ever ported it over even with later versions for the PC.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:34:01 PM »

Without a doubt in my mind the 16-bit SEGA Mega Drive version I think is the best. This is only my personal opinion so i'm not basing it on fact.

If you're a fan of the 16-bit Sonic The Hedgehog soundtracks, then there's no excuse why you wouldn't like the Lemmings Mega Drive soundtrack. The music is very lively with a reminicent late 1970's pop/disco orientated sound with a catchy beat in each music track. Very good and upbeat versions of the tunes, although in fairness I do think the other ports of Lemmings feature great soundtracks too especially the SNES and Master System but the Mega Drive OST does it for me.

SONGS INCLUDE:
1. Gallop From Opheus In The Underworld - Can Can
2. Pachelbel's Canon Tailor Made
3. How Much Is That Doggie In The Window
4. She'll Be Coming Round' The Mountain
5. Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca
6. Dance Of The Reed Flutes
7. O' Little Town Of Bethlehem
8. London Bridge Is Falling Down
9. Enjoy The Show
10. Ten Green Bottles
11. March Of The Mods
and many, many more

The songs are all specially chosen as to being out of copyright, it originally had something to do with the original Amiga Lemmings sound producers not being able to compose their own music properly which led to musical arrangements of old songs.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:44:49 PM »

Here is a special fan-made SEGA Mega Drive version of the Lemmings song ''Enjoy The Show'' Level 11, 25 & 29 of FUN.

Enjoy The Show Lemmings SEGA Mega Drive - tomatzu Version

finlay · « **Reply #53 on:** August 14, 2011, 08:04:02 PM »

Quote from: Adrian060756 on 2011-08-14 12:34:01

The songs are all specially chosen as to being out of copyright, it originally had something to do with the original Amiga Lemmings sound producers not being able to compose their own music properly which led to musical arrangements of old songs.

You... don't say? Remember, this is a lemmings forum... between us we basically know all the stories back to front.

As for the video, what the hell? I mean, after playing the opening sequence to the Mega Drive/Genesis port, it starts showing us pictures of Sonic the hedgehog. Huh, wtf

? And then there was pictures of some woman being arty-farty. And it didn't actually sound like the music from the Mega Drive port anyway.

Adam · « **Reply #54 on:** August 14, 2011, 09:52:36 PM »

A little bit harsh, finlay, a little bit harsh.

Simon · « **Reply #55 on:** August 14, 2011, 11:10:30 PM »

Nice mix -- nothing wrong with putting random imagery into music video.

-- Simon

finlay · « **Reply #56 on:** August 14, 2011, 11:52:24 PM »

Quote from: Adam on 2011-08-14 15:52:36

A little bit harsh, finlay, a little bit harsh.

In a harsh mood, sorry.

Also, I just genuinely didn't understand what the post was actually, kind of, about... is it a CD that he has as a soundtrack or what? Where is the video actually from? The post reads a bit like an advertisement, as well, and it appears to be aimed at folk who've played other games of that era, eg Sonic, and not necessarily at Lemmings players themselves. I dunno, just seemed odd.

ccexplore · « **Reply #57 on:** August 15, 2011, 12:45:33 AM »

Youtube is full of these kinds of music video combining music (often remixed/remastered) with random snippets of video, only some of which are related to the video game.

If anything, I would complain it lacks originality in the remix department. It is basically the Windows MIDI/CD version from what I remember. Almost none of it reminds me of the Megadrive version, and there isn't anything in there different enough to even really qualify as much of a remix. Youtube quality I guess you could say.

$:-\$

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 15, 2011, 05:47:19 PM »

If anybody is wondering about the content in the video I posted. I honestly didn't mean to upset anybody. The music does sound like the Mega Drive/Genesis port if you listen carefully, but opinions will be opinions....

The footage was taken from both the Master System and Mega Drive ports aswell as images of Sonic The Hedgehog as the song's bass line shares extreme similarities to the 16-bit Sonic series. The girl is a young pop star on the internet who has yet to make her mark in the music industry, she sang two Lemmings songs on Youtube with her own lyrics added which is why she is in the video, so all content in the video is related to Lemmings.

I suggest in a kind way that some of you should do more research into the music of Lemmings before bitching about how this one video is unrelated when it really IS related to Lemmings.

ccexplore · « **Reply #59 on:** August 15, 2011, 07:30:25 PM »

Quote from: Adrian060756 on 2011-08-15 11:47:19

If anybody is wondering about the content in the video I posted. I honestly didn't mean to upset anyI suggest in a kind way that some of you should do more research into the music of Lemmings before bitching about how this one video is unrelated when it really IS related to Lemmings.

Hey now, Finlay was the only one complaining that it's "unrelated". And it's not an entirely unfair criticism, I'll bet most of us don't know anything Sonic and the girl until you explained. It would not surprise me that if you were to drop a random sample of all people who love lemmings or even specifically SMS and Megadrive Lemmings, most would not know what you just told us, having not previously seen anything like it and shown these things in the video out of their normal context.

finlay · « **Reply #60 on:** August 15, 2011, 09:49:16 PM »

I missed the bit about it being "fan-made" (I just took that as the video being fan-made, not the music itself). And yeah, I really know nothing about Sonic except that he's blue and spiky.

I mean, I can hear the baseline and I know that that's out of the megadrive port, but the rest of it clearly isn't, so it was confusing for me.

But fair enough – I think if you'd explained that, I wouldn't have got annoyed at it. Plus anything that looks like an advertisement garners a very negative reaction from me, which is why I didn't like the first post of yours, which looks like you're rattling off a wikipedia description of the music of Lemmings.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 16, 2011, 04:32:49 AM »

ccexplore = ''Youtube is full of these kinds of music video combining music (often remixed/remastered) with random snippets of video, only some of which are related to the video game''.

It wasn't just Finlay saying the video was unrelated but you too ccexplore.

You guys don't have to like it but it would be nice if you research the content in the video first in future before posting that the video is ''unrelated'' to Lemmings in such a negative way. I too am sorry for not explaining about the content in the video first off as I was unaware of the negative feedback it has now generated.

The video did not contain ''random imagery''only those who are unfamiliar with the SEGA Mega Drive console and it's FM-YM2612 sound chip and the Lemmings port itself would say that. I maybe new to this site but I know what is related and what is unrelated to post to this forum. I could've purposely posted a mash up I know of which has Justin Beiber singing over a Lemmings song which is entirely unrelated to each other but instead I posted something that was related.

First of all I myself did not remix the music track, someone else made it on Youtube by the username of ''tomatzu'' I got his permission to upload my own video with his version of the song, I also had to ask ArtyGirlZiggy ''Zonic'' for her images to put in the video and that there explains why there is two annotations on the video, one for tomatzu's original video and one for Zonic on her vocal album version. Sonic is in it too as a little small tribute to SEGA as the music (not just the bass but also the percussion) sounds like the Mega Drive.

If i'm guilty of anything then it's that I didn't explain all this in my first post but however I didn't think it really mattered and I certainly wasn't expecting so much negative feedback.

As for Finlay: About my first post, I was only expressing my love for the SEGA Mega Drive port of Lemmings, I was not advertising, just explaining in great detail how the MD/Genesis port sounds with it's arrangements of the songs. I've been a massive fan of Lemmings since I was a little boy and i've especially been exposed to the SEGA versions throughout my childhood and this is a topic about the music to Lemmings afterall so there should be nothing wrong with me explaining about the song list.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 16, 2011, 04:56:44 AM »

To help even more to make sense of the first video I posted, watch and hear this second video.

She is singing a Lemmings song so although the sound is completely different, it is still related to Lemmings.

Zonic - Enjoy the show (Album version)

I wonder if this one will recieve negative feedback?

ccexplore · « **Reply #63 on:** August 16, 2011, 05:25:23 AM »

Quote from: Adrian060756 on 2011-08-15 22:32:49

ccexplore = ''Youtube is full of these kinds of music video combining music (often remixed/remastered) with random snippets of video, only some of which are related to the video game''.

It wasn't just Finlay saying the video was unrelated but you too ccexplore.

Yes, but it wasn't a criticism. I was just pointing out to Finlay that a lot of youtube videos of video game music tends to be like that, it isn't meant to be a judgment call. My only negative feedback was on the music itself, that as a remix it wasn't very distinguished (for example, seeing that it featured Sonic in the video, I was thinking it would've at least go into some sort of Medley or fusion of some Sonic music).

Anyway, I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. $:-\$ Only Finlay and I has any kind of feedback that is "negative", Simon's feedback is basically positive, and no one else has any feedback (so neutral majority basically). And only Finlay objected to the "random" imagery. And of course no one bothered to research anything because we didn't know it's not random! With youtube having so many videos of all kinds of quality and relevance, and having no prior knowledge, is it not reasonable to assume that the video features Sonic because whoever made the video also like Sonic games, and that maybe the girl is the same person who made the video? In which case there would be no reason for us to expect any further research, correct? Sorry you feel so negatively about the feedback, but it's hardly civil to call our feedback and opinions "bitching" either, you know.

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As for the video of the girl, I honestly can't say I particularly like my Lemmings music being turned into that

, but that's my personal taste (and there's no denying that it does make for a memorable video), and I certainly have no objections to posting it here.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:27:13 AM »

I never said or implied that it was criticism of what you said ccexplore, you guys have every right to voice your opinions. I was just pointing out that you too commented that the visual content in the video was not all related to Lemmings, only somewhat when you originally said that it was only Finlay who did.

Like you and Finlay not researching the visual content in the video because ''you did not know'' I too did not go into detail on explaining the content in my second post because ''I did not know''. I didn't think anybody would kick up a big stink about it. In my first post I went into great detail about the MD/Genesis soundtrack to Lemmings and Finlay for one didn't like it, Finlay thought I was advertising which furthered his anger. When I then posted the first video Finlay couldn't understand what it was all about and says that none of it made any sense, so it seems to me that it makes no difference whether I give great detail on something or not, whatever I have to say or post will be recieved as negative posts. I'm not liked much on Youtube so it's no doubt that my bad luck would only follow me over here.

It's not a case of me ''blowing this way out of proportion'' i'm just bringing up these little bits that you and Finlay said in your first posts incase it goes undetected on here which would make me look like an ass.

I personally am a very open person who enjoys the fact that there are other gamers, artists, producers and singing popstars out there making their own versions of game music songs from my childhood and anyway it's not like the remixes and remakes are gonna overshadow the original versions. The original masterpieces especially on the Amiga will always be there. I personally think what Zonic did was a brilliant thing, she definitely has a beautiful voice, just a shame she can never get the video or song published as she did not compose the music, only the lyrics.

I think the fact that the videos I post on this forum contain some new content but are still related to Lemmings in some way keeps everything fresh and more interesting to this site. As they say: ''Variety Is A Spice Of Life''.

Adding something new but still staying true to the original formula can only be a positive thing.

finlay · « **Reply #65 on:** August 16, 2011, 02:20:11 PM »

Sorry, anyway, I was basically being an ass.

Her song is OK; I'm not sure I like it personally, although I quite like her voice (at least in this version – she sounded a bit more whiny on the version she recorded on her webcam, which I watched yesterday). Well, actually, I much prefer the other song she did based on the track 'Lemmings 2'*. I can't hear what the lyrics are meant to be though.

It's not terribly surprising if we haven't heard of these things – they've only got 1000 views on Youtube and it's a big wide world out there on Youtube. So yes, it is nice to see a bit of variety.

I guess the other thing about the first video is that as cc says, now that you've told me it was a remix I can recognise it for what it is and I understand, but at first I just assumed that it was from a different port of Lemmings (and I know it's not the Megadrive music, even if it's based on it, which confused me further). I mean there are so many different ports out there that it's very conceivable that it's just a version from a different port that I haven't heard yet. I misunderstood "fan-made" in your post, thinking that it only referred to the video, not the music itself.

* this one: http://youtu.be/t-1fhI0yWwU

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #66 on:** August 16, 2011, 02:45:59 PM »

I apologize too for not explaining about the first video in greater detail. The last thing I want to do is argue on this forum with the many other brilliant minds and masters of Lemmings such as yourselves over posted videos. It's just that your first post Finlay really caught me by surprise, I wasn't expecting such a strong negative reaction but anyway.

I apologize to Finlay and ccexplore aswell as the administrators of this site for any inconvenience caused. From now on when I post a video I will be sure to give a full description about it's content.

Happy Gaming

ccexplore · « **Reply #67 on:** August 16, 2011, 09:18:50 PM »

Quote from: finlay on 2011-08-16 08:20:11

* this one: http://youtu.be/t-1fhI0yWwU

Oh wow, that is so much better.

I too thought the first one (the one Adrian060756 posted) sounded a bit karaoke-ish, although on a re-listen I think it might be partly be the music arrangement not working with her vocals quite as well as this one.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 17, 2011, 08:45:31 AM »

Hmmm... I actually think the one I posted was better ''Enjoy The Show'' by Zonic, because not only is it my favourite Lemmings song but it's also uploaded in higher quality sound. Miners And Climbers is just as good really, I can't hear anything wrong with her vocal range in either song and I can't find anything to criticize about either but I prefer ''Enjoy The Show''.

The other thing I noticed is that she spelt the title wrong ''Minors And Climbers'' i'm pretty sure there's meant to be an e in Miners.

And as for the version of ''Enjoy The Show'' that she recorded on her webcam, I think that was a just a demo recording which explains why it sounds like something from American Idol. The one I posted above was the full album version.

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 20, 2011, 07:47:13 AM »

Here is an example of putting a Lemmings song to good use.

This video features the Mega Drive version of ''How Much Is That Doggie In The Window'' (My favourite version)

The video shows short clips taken from the BBC's 1990 comedy sitcom ''Keeping Up Appearances'' where you see Onsolw's dog barking at Hyacinth in the window of the car. This content is entirely safe to post and does not infringe copyright, it was uploaded to Youtube along time ago.

The Dog In The Window - Keeping Up Appearances

Adrian060756 · « **Reply #70 on:** August 20, 2011, 07:59:20 AM »

Hey have you ever wondered what Lemmings would feel like playing it with the original version of ''How Much Is That Doggie In The Window''?

How Much Is That Doggie In The Window was composed by Bob Merrill in 1952 and sung by Patti Page. It's played to the Mega Drive port of Lemmings perfectly synchronised. Once again the song is safe to post and does not infringe copyright.

Lemmings/Patti Page How Much Is That Doggy In The Window

DragonsLover · « **Reply #71 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:45:35 PM »

Just wondering: would you be interested to listen to the Atari ST musics of Lemmings, Oh no! More Lemmings and Lemmings 2? It sounds a bit like Tandy on PC. I could record them for you if you want.

Otherwise, the simplest way to listen to them would be to directly take the .SNDH files along with JAM for Windows.

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