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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #165 on: September 05, 2009, 10:39:56 AM »
Oh, yeah... Hey, I never tried that on my own copy. I should do that now. (Update to come...)

Well that was weird. The lemming bashed through the ceiling just fine (except for the second steel wall) the first time, but then I encountered the problem LemSteven described after running your program.

(Hey, I'm stacking my own quotes now. Hehehe... :P)

I noticed something else strange during these tests, and I'm not sure if it has been mentioned before. (Knowing you guys, though, it probably has. ;)) When the lemming bashes through the ceiling, I start getting flashing black lines spreading across the skills toolbar. They get longer as the lemming keeps bashing - in fact they seem to lengthen at the same rate as the basher digs through the terrain, and even at the same time as it destroys the terrain (in short, separate bursts). At first I thought it was a sign the game was about to crash - fortunately it didn't. :D

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« Reply #166 on: September 05, 2009, 11:25:48 AM »
Let's get started.  We'll just use the shots from Clam Spammer's Tame challenges for now...
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Hang on a minute guys. ><img src=" title="Angry" class="smiley" />  I don't want OhNo more lemmings to be reviewed. I know I do it sometimes but Dullstar especially, you've rushed from game to game rather than console to console (in other words you did not read the front page). I was about to say slow down but my goodness, why are you taking levels which overlap the right of the screen?

I did say I was going to do the PSP version, although I actually changed my mind and prefer to do Genesis. If you want OhNo to be reviewed, PLEASE DO IT ON A SEPARATE TOPIC. I'm sending a message to the topic leader, Adam. BTW I'm not going to review any more levels with pictures overlapping the edge of the screen. That is ridiculous. Just wait until we get more pictures, and also, since I deleted my editor, I can't be bothered to upload the Crazy, Wild, Wicked or Havoc images. ><img src=" title="Angry" class="smiley" />

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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #167 on: September 05, 2009, 11:49:39 AM »
minimac94, could you please stop acting like you own the place. Okay, we haven't considered your opinion yet, but do note that no less than four of us agreed that the next set of levels to review should be ONML. Considering how many people actually post reviews here, I'd say that's enough of a consensus to go on with. I will suggest that we take a moment to reconsider the direction of this thread, but I personally don't expect the outcome to change. I'm not about to change my mind - I don't want to review the Genesis levels because I don't have them and I've never played them.

You've never complained about level pictures extending off the screen before (as far as I recall - feel free to direct me to such a post if it exists). Why start now? Just be grateful we actually have pictures for these levels.

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« Reply #168 on: September 05, 2009, 12:17:27 PM »
Sorry to take this further off-topic, but are you interested in playing the Mega Drive/Genesis levels Clam Spammer? Thanks to ccexplore (and a tiny bit of help from me, but he deserves the credit ;)) they're all available in LVL format if you want them.

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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #169 on: September 05, 2009, 12:31:07 PM »
Dunno bout him, but I sure am! Link please?
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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #170 on: September 05, 2009, 12:48:03 PM »
Mega Drive / Genesis next, then Sega Master System! That should keep us going for a while.

I'll leave this next part up to you. Do you want to review ALL levels, or just the exclusive levels?

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« Reply #171 on: September 05, 2009, 02:17:55 PM »
That's an interesting question. We'll try all the exclusive levels.

Didn't mean to be so dramatic earlier on today, but generally I just wanted to let you know that we should have left it at this point after we finished Mayhem 30, not carry on doing ONML until we decided what to do next.

Anyway, good work putting the link up, Fleech! :)
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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #172 on: September 05, 2009, 02:33:33 PM »
I think all the exclusive levels is fine. Also: Only those that are truly exclusive. I remember that one version has ONML levels remade in Original graphic sets - I think these should be excluded. Also, levels that are strongy similar to existing levels even if they have minor differences, should be excluded (for example, "Sixes Not" and "With A Twist Of Lemming Please" from Sega Master System should be excluded. On the other hand, "Stepping Stones" is unique enough that it should be reviewed.)
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« Reply #173 on: September 05, 2009, 02:40:53 PM »
One version has ONML levels remade in Original graphic sets - I think these should be excluded.

Don't forget, we haven't reviewed those levels yet, so I disagree, we ARE going to put those levels in.
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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #174 on: September 05, 2009, 03:03:57 PM »
I don't see the point. We can just review them as ONML levels when we get up to that. Much easier than keeping track of exactly which ones were or weren't already done as other version levels.
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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #175 on: September 05, 2009, 03:23:43 PM »
I think we should review the ONML remakes in the Genesis version, AND review the ONML levels themselves. The chances of someone reviewing the same level twice are very slim, and some people might not realise that the Genesis levels are ONML remakes... it took me a while to figure it out!


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« Reply #176 on: September 05, 2009, 03:42:04 PM »
Like I said earlier, I would review ONML in a separate topic if I were you.
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Re: Level Review Topic
« Reply #177 on: September 05, 2009, 03:43:11 PM »
I like that idea. How would you feel about having ONML and The Tribes in the same topic?

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« Reply #178 on: September 05, 2009, 05:06:32 PM »
Okay, I see that there are complaints 'bout ONML, so let's go on with the Genesis Version!

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« Reply #179 on: September 05, 2009, 05:52:27 PM »
Lets go! :D I'll start with "Room with no exit" because this one is different to The Crankshaft Template

Genesis - Fun 14 - Room with no exit


Number of lemmings: 100
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Time: 5 minutes
Release rate: 80

Skills: 50 bashers

Good: A nice challenge based on just one skill in the whole level, but not too hard either, better than the Crankshaft.
Bad: Too much walking to the exit.
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