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Dullstar:
Couldn't find anything about this online. Attempting to run on actual hardware.


--- Code: ---Error Handler : Error Number 8001
457712 bytes Main memory used
1443168 bytes Expanded memory used
27136 bytes Main memory free
32111264 bytes Expanded memory free
1432 bytes of Data Space free
MEM Error : 1 : No Memory Available of required type
--- End code ---

Figured I'd see if I can figure out why it's not working. Don't know what the hardware requirements are or if the computer in question meets them - I think I've had it running on that computer before, but maybe I've always only had it working on DOSBox and forgot about it.

Simon:
Native Lemmings 2 needs a FAT16 hard disk partition. Is yours FAT16?

This is merely a wild guess from the error message. Around 2000, I've tried running Lemmings 2 natively, but didn't succeed because the partition was FAT32. I don't remember the error message after 20 years. Your error, literally, sounds more like some RAM type ("data space") is lacking and not the hdd, but I can't tell what it means.

Dosbox runs L2 well out of the box.

-- Simon

kaywhyn:
IIRC, when I first played the game back in 2007 I downloaded Lemmings 2 from Abandonware and it ran in Dosbox perfectly fine. Have you tried that?

ccexplore:
Out of curiosity, what hardware is this, and what version of operating system?

Can't find anything online that seems clearly related to the error.  The error message itself is confusing as it's not clear what type of memory it thinks there is not enough of.  Maybe "Data Space" but that doesn't sound familiar as a type of memory to me. ???

This really old site mentioned that disabling sound or set it to Adlib may help with certain out of memory problems, but it is not clear whether it will address specifically what you're seeing.

It may be worth trying the version of L2 from abandonia.com that includes L2-fix.exe, run that in place of the original L2 program and see if that makes a difference.

If you don't mind me asking, what is the purpose of running it natively as opposed to using DOSBox?

Dullstar:

--- Quote from: ccexplore on April 14, 2020, 08:22:32 AM ---If you don't mind me asking, what is the purpose of running it natively as opposed to using DOSBox?

--- End quote ---

I had a sound emulation problem in DOSBox, but it turned out that the config had gotten borked at some point, and that's why the sound wasn't working. I was trying to compare the audio from the DOS and Amiga versions, and I happened to have the computer lying around, so running it on that was the first thing I tried when the audio didn't work on DOSBox.

I'll update about the hardware later. Even though I got DOSBox working, I'm still a little curious as to why it isn't working on real DOS now that I know there's an issue - though since I at least managed to accomplish what I was trying to do initially by figuring out what was wrong with DOSBox, it's a lower priority now. It occurs with both the L2 and L2-fix executables, but the computer's been mostly sitting around a while (I had to leave it with my family for a while due to not having space for it), so it may be possible that maybe some of the RAM went bad but there's still enough working for the computer to run, or something like that, or maybe the data somehow got corrupt. Probably another simple thing I can try would be to delete the game and reinstall it from a known working copy. I guess I just want to make sure it's not indicative of a larger as-of-yet undiagnosed issue with the computer.

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