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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #405 on: December 12, 2015, 07:05:53 AM »
If you prefer a GUI-based tool that makes a list with multiple rows, here's my tool. Windows-only, although I would be very surprised if it didn't work perfectly under WINE. It does require manually saving / loading the files.

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #406 on: December 12, 2015, 09:25:06 AM »
RR
RRR
YYY
OO
OOO
XX
XXX

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #407 on: December 12, 2015, 06:09:09 PM »
Awesome, thanks namida! :thumbsup:

White Koans
ARPR          BUBBLE        RRR           Y             
B             BUBBLEWRAP    UBLE          YO           
BBBBB         BULE          WRA           YOO           
BBBELU        BZZZZ         WRAPBUBBLE    YRAP         
BELU          LU            WRAPP         YYY           
BU            R             WRAPPER                     


Black Koans
A             N             UBBLE         WW           
APRW          O             ULE           X             
BB            OO            V             XRAP         
BBBB          OOO           W             XX           
BBELU         OZ            WRAB          YR           
BY            OZZ           WRAP          YRA           
H             OZZZ          WRAPPE        YY           
M             RR            WRAPWRAP      XXX           

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #408 on: December 13, 2015, 04:16:25 PM »
Simon got the rule in chat. A koan has the buddha nature if and only if it contains an odd number of vertical line segments; equivalently, an odd number of letters from the class {B, D, E, F, G, I, J, K, L, P, R, T, Y}.

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #409 on: December 13, 2015, 05:43:03 PM »
I was shying away from testing single letters, because I believed that the exising koans were already disproving such a two-class theory already. Checking again, they didn't, which led to the solution.

Thanks for being quick to mark at all times, even after a long hiatus!

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ENOUGHTHINGS are white.
OTHERSTUFF is black.

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #410 on: December 13, 2015, 05:46:53 PM »
Hmm, quite complex starting koans, so let's break them down a bit....

ENOUGH
THINGS
OTHER
STUFF
ENOUGHSTUFF
OTHERTHINGS

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #411 on: December 13, 2015, 05:49:54 PM »
White koans:
ENOUGH
ENOUGHSTUFF
ENOUGHTHINGS


Black koans:
OTHERSTUFF
OTHERTHINGS
STUFF
THINGS

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #412 on: December 13, 2015, 05:51:58 PM »
E
EN
ENO
ENOU
ENOUG

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #413 on: December 13, 2015, 05:54:02 PM »
White koans:
E
EN
ENO
ENOU
ENOUG
ENOUGH
ENOUGHSTUFF
ENOUGHTHINGS


Black koans:
OTHERSTUFF
OTHERTHINGS
STUFF
THINGS

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #414 on: December 13, 2015, 05:56:12 PM »
ESTUFF
ETHINGS
ONOUGH
FNOUGH
FSTUFF

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #415 on: December 13, 2015, 05:58:59 PM »
White koans:
E       ENOUGHSTUFF
EN      ENOUGHTHINGS
ENO     ESTUFF
ENOU    ETHINGS
ENOUG   FNOUGH
ENOUGH  FSTUFF


Black koans:
COUNTEREXAMPLE <-- to rule guess AKHTBN iff it starts with A-M
ONOUGH
OTHERSTUFF
OTHERTHINGS
STUFF
THINGS

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #416 on: December 13, 2015, 06:02:43 PM »
Rule guess attempt: Koan has buddha nature iff its first letter is in A-M.
Counterexample: COUNTEREXAMPLE starts with something in A-M, but is black. Added to previous koan listing.

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #417 on: December 13, 2015, 06:05:33 PM »
C
COUNTER
DATA
F
G

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #418 on: December 13, 2015, 06:07:58 PM »
White koans:
C        ENOUGHSTUFF
COUNTER  ENOUGHTHINGS
E        ESTUFF
EN       ETHINGS
ENO      F
ENOU     FNOUGH
ENOUG    FSTUFF
ENOUGH   G


Black koans:
COUNTEREXAMPLE
DATA
ONOUGH
OTHERSTUFF
OTHERTHINGS
STUFF
THINGS

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Re: Zendo, play by forum
« Reply #419 on: December 13, 2015, 06:09:44 PM »
EXAMPLE
STUFFEXAMPLE
FNOUGHEXAMPLE
EXAMPLEEXAMPLE
EXAM