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NeoLemmix => NeoLemmix Levels => Levels for v10 or older => Topic started by: Colorful Arty on June 11, 2016, 02:40:31 AM

Title: [NeoLemmix] Reverse Lemmings
Post by: Colorful Arty on June 11, 2016, 02:40:31 AM
It's finally here!

Reverse Lemmings is a levelpack containing the levels from the original DOS Lemmings with the exits and entrances swapped and different skill assignments. Have fun solving these classic levels in a totally new and (hopefully) interesting and fun way! The difficulty is similar to the original Lemmings, but expect quite a few really hard levels in the earlier difficulties and several very easy levels in the later difficulties. I did my best, but some levels are very difficult to make hard.

As an added bonus, the NeoLemmix version features a few levels that include NeoLemmix-exclusive features, such as platformers and pickup skills.

I highly recommend the DOS music for this pack, but it is far from necessary. You can download it here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twepi07aesocdl9/DOS%20Music.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/twepi07aesocdl9/DOS%20Music.zip?dl=0)

Let me know what you think, and above all, have fun! :D
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: Gronkling on June 14, 2016, 01:08:19 PM
Nice to play an easy pack for once :) For the most part I'd say this is easier than the original lemmings (with some exceptions) but is still a relaxing experience. I attatched my replays to this post though I think this is more of an open-ended pack so it won't matter as much. (Replays using NeoLemmix_Exp 1.44-D).
My only real criticism i can think of is that there's quite a few misaligned steel areas that could probably be fixed with autosteel. Other than that, nice!
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: Flopsy on June 14, 2016, 01:29:54 PM
When I've finished LPIII on my Youtube channel which could be at any time in the next month (hopefully!), I'll make a live playthrough of this pack if anyone is interested in watching that.
I was going to do Geofflems but it seems that has already been covered by namida and will also be covered by IchoTolot soon (from what I've read in chat).

Be nice to do a Super Lemmini conversion for a change :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: namida on June 14, 2016, 04:11:45 PM
Just thought I should point out - it appears this pack was compiled with a very old version of the Flexi Toolkit, which as such marks it as not fully compatible with V1.43n line. It will almost certianly still work anyway, but it's something you should fix. All that's needed in most cases is to get the newest version of the toolkit and rebuild the NXP with it.

Anyway, since I can't really record right now (so not going to do NepsterLems or the contest levels), I thought I'd give this a go. I'll get back to you soon with replays and feedback. :)


EDIT:
Some of these levels need the steel areas to be fixed up, eg. Fun 10. I don't know how accurate SuperLemmini's placement of them is, but for most levels, this can be handled simply by turning "Autosteel" and "Ignore Manual Steel" on (you can use the "Force Autosteel" option under Show All Options in the Flexi Toolkit to apply these to all levels).

Tricky 9 / Mayhem 6 and Mayhem 1 additionally require the use of the "Simple Autosteel" option to work properly. There may be other levels where this is the case too, generally any that have decorative terrain like moss overlaid on steel.

Tricky 4 / Taxing 7 is a total mess in regards to steel, and I would recommend simply re-making these levels if nessecary using the NeoLemmix versions as a starting point.
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: namida on June 14, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
Here are my replays for Fun and Tricky. All levels saved 100% without abusing level edges, except for Tricky 17 (lost 2), Tricky 18 (lost 2), Tricky 19 (lost 3), Tricky 20 (lost 1), and Tricky 25 (lost 2). Had some rough ideas on how to improve Tricky 25 to lose 1, but couldn't get them to work out.

(Replays saved in V1.43n-F player.)
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: Colorful Arty on June 14, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
It looks like both namida and Icho had the same crazy solution to Luvly Jubbly. Nicely done!

I DO have the latest FlexiToolkit downloaded and it is the one I used for creating this pack. I'll edit some of the levels to fix the steel issue though.
Title: Re: Reverse Lemmings 1.0 released for NeoLemmix!
Post by: namida on June 14, 2016, 10:50:40 PM
I'll have to look at why it's giving that message then... weird.

(EDIT: Okay, really weird. I just tried running it again now and it doesn't give the warning.)