Author Topic: [BUG][PLAYER] Using shimmier/jumper to let a normal lemming enter a midair exit.  (Read 3540 times)

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Offline Armani

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I found out that reachers are allowed to enter midair exits, which means you can use shimmier to let a lemming enter the exit mid-air.

Also at the last frame of jumping phase, the lemming can enter mid-air exit too.

Both should be banned in my opinion :)
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Offline WillLem

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@Armani

I'm curious to know, what's your reasoning for thinking that this was a bug that "should be banned", as opposed to a valid behaviour?



Also - I've just looked at this again and realised that the Jumper only actually exits on the final frame of its arc. This is indeed a bug; it should be able to exit along the full range of its arc, if at all.

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Actually, when I first found out that reacher can enter exit, I wasn't sure it was an intended behavior or a bug.
That's why I asked namida on discord whether this is a bug or not.
And he said that it's a bug and also the two skill(shimmier/jumper) should be consistent.

As for now, I don't have any strong preference on "should jumper be allowed to enter exit?"
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I wasn't sure it was an intended behavior or a bug.
That's why I asked namida on discord whether this is a bug or not.
And he said that it's a bug and also the two skill(shimmier/jumper) should be consistent.

OK, thanks for clarifying :)

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Fixed - as is the bug where an exit will interrupt a Jumper skill shadow even at positions where the Jumper can't exit (which is now all positions except upon landing) - in commit 5e5b286.
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