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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2020, 12:35:22 AM »
Danger 23 "Lair of the Fallen Lemming", save-all is possible.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2020, 12:40:35 AM »
As per Discord discussions yesterday, some Psycho results. Bolded ones are improvements over the save requirement. Those prepended with a * are the ones that I think are worth a closer look.

Psycho 1 "Variety Day" - 20/20 (found by Proxima)
Psycho 2 "The Parking Lot" - 49/50
Psycho 3 "Express Lane" - 11/12
Psycho 4 "Think Outside The Square!" - 11/15
Psycho 5 "Lightspeed Lemming" - 73/80 (intended solution replay achieves this)
Psycho 6 "The Bulldozer" - 80/80 (although requirement is 79/80, most solutions will achieve 80/80)
Psycho 7 "Turn Back With Care" - 78/80
* Psycho 8 "Snowed In!" - 72/80
* Psycho 9 "Coalburner (Part II)" - 72/80 (this is just the requirement)
Psycho 10 "What Did You Expect?" - 77/80
Psycho 11 "Three Birds With One Stone" - 77/80 (many ways to achieve this, including the intended solution replay)
Psycho 12 "Not Gonna Work" - 40/40
Psycho 13 "Go High Go Low" - 58/60 (replay attached)
Psycho 14 "Lemmerixo" - 50/50
Psycho 15 "Where Anything Goes" - 53/53
Psycho 16 "Crosswork" - 50/50 (trivial to improve any% to 100%)
* Psycho 17 "Meeting Spot" - 18/20
Psycho 18 "Return of the T" - 25/25
Psycho 19 "A Perfect Nightmare" - 80/80
Psycho 20 "No Time To Die" - 20/20
Psycho 21 "Kamikaze!" - 77/80 (found by Proxima)
Psycho 22 "Twins" - 79/80 (trivial improvement to standard solution)
Psycho 23 "Death Row" - 73/80 (just a matter of good timing)
* Psycho 24 "Gone In A Flash" - 15/20
Psycho 25 "Bullet Lemming" - 79/80
Psycho 26 "Oblivion" - 18/20
Psycho 27 "No Time To Die (Part II)" - 20/20
Psycho 28 "To The End!" - 30/30
Psycho 29 "No Salvation V" - 10/10 (replay earlier in topic)
Psycho 30 "Hellfire!" - 76/80
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2020, 04:49:41 PM »
Medi 20 "The Diving Board" 58/60
Medi 29 "Lemmingsense" 78/80
Danger 3 "Backdraft" 18/20
« Last Edit: February 02, 2020, 02:59:31 PM by Proxima »

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2020, 01:59:08 AM »
Psycho 22 "Twins" improved to 80/80. Unlike the above, this is not a trivial variation on the standard solution, this is actually quite tricky.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2020, 03:21:43 AM »
While working on the "skills you can't live without" challenge, I found a 1-blocker solution to Danger 15 "Circular Wavelength" that also improves the save count to 79/80.
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2020, 05:58:51 AM »
I've made a start on DoveLems, adding my results for the Plain levels to the opening post. Of these, I would say 100% on Plain 15 "Ground Floor, Please" is the most challenge-worthy.

This rank includes a nuke level, so we will probably never know for certain what is the maximum possible that can be saved. I'll keep track of our record in the same way as with any other level, and if anyone manages to improve it, let me know!

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2020, 08:39:38 AM »
To be more specific about which nuke level he's talking about, it's Plain 28: the "Final Flourish" level. Looking forward to trying this one! Although I'll have to see if I can actually do this one with original skills.

EDIT: So, I managed to improve this one to Save 58. Looks like I found the quickest way to the exit here, and used quite a lot of climbers too.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2020, 10:08:26 AM by Minim »
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2020, 07:27:41 PM »
I've added MiniLems to the opening post. Only five four non-100%able levels in the pack!

Replays attached for 100% "We are now at LEMCON ONE" (yes, this is actually quite tricky with the reduced skillset!), 25/30 "Call in the bomb squad", 29/30 "The Boiler Room" and 100% "The Steel Mines of Kessel".
« Last Edit: April 20, 2020, 09:28:05 PM by Proxima »

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2020, 09:02:37 PM »
I've added MiniLems to the opening post. Only five non-100%able levels in the pack!

Thanks for doing that! Tailor Made For Blockers is 100%-able though:

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2020, 09:27:19 PM »
We have a result for every level of Original Lemmings now (thanks partly to WillLem expressing interest in a couple of levels), so I've added these to the opening post. There's some overlap with Redux, but enough different levels that it feels worth maintaining the separate list; besides, this makes it easy to compare results with our results for the original game.


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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2020, 01:17:24 AM »
LPI Psycho 9 "Coalburner" 73/80

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2020, 12:40:02 AM »
LPI Danger 27 "The Deadly Climb" 3/5 (improving from 2)
LPI Psycho 4 "Think Outside the Square!" 12/15 (improving from 11)
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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2020, 11:44:07 PM »
Sammings results added. The Pillar 2 result, and 100% on Bubble 3 and 4, are thanks to WillLem. I've attached my own replays for a couple of the trickier results.

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2020, 11:56:06 PM »
The Pillar 2 result, and 100% on Bubble 3 and 4, are thanks to WillLem.

Replays attached. :lemcat:

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Re: NeoLemmix: Maximum Saved Records
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2020, 12:34:35 PM »
Redux results updated. The new level "The Boiler Room" has an obvious maximum of 49/50. (In original Lemmings, "The Boiler Room" was notorious as one of the "non-100%" levels that turned out to be 100%able after all, but this required the sliding glitch, which is not possible in NeoLemmix.)