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Help wanted with Lemmings 2 technical problems
chris:
Hello Everyone,
Having recently found this, I thought I'd ask you experts about some longstanding problems I've had with The Tribes.
Playing the floppy disk version on a 386, the levels don't advance. I complete a level, and it doesn't let me move to the next one. This seems like a bug. It is the same set of disks that worked years ago, on nearly the same type of computer. Any ideas please? Fixes? Possibly just different memory settings or something, although I'd have hoped the game would warn me. I can't play the game properly any more.
The other problem I was never sure about years ago... The cannons sometimes through the firing animation but the lemming stayed inside. When another lemming came along they were both fired at once. Is that supposed to happen? It gave me great trouble on one of the Highland levels where there were cannons and trampolines, because the trampoline would only catch one lemming at a time and the other would splat.
(Apologies if they've already been covered elsewhere! I did try searching but didn't find anything relevant.)
Chris
IchoTolot:
Hi and welcome to the forums. :)
--- Quote from: chris on October 11, 2018, 08:44:30 PM ---The other problem I was never sure about years ago... The cannons sometimes through the firing animation but the lemming stayed inside. When another lemming came along they were both fired at once. Is that supposed to happen? It gave me great trouble on one of the Highland levels where there were cannons and trampolines, because the trampoline would only catch one lemming at a time and the other would splat.
--- End quote ---
This is a glitch that happens sometimes with the cannons (double load). I can't tell though if there are version in which this is more prominent.
--- Quote ---Playing the floppy disk version on a 386, the levels don't advance. I complete a level, and it doesn't let me move to the next one. This seems like a bug. It is the same set of disks that worked years ago, on nearly the same type of computer. Any ideas please? Fixes? Possibly just different memory settings or something, although I'd have hoped the game would warn me. I can't play the game properly any more.
--- End quote ---
I would recommend using a DOSBOX version. DOSBOX is a DOS emulator for old DOS games and I had no problems playing through Lemmings 2 with this. (dosbox.com)
If the games runs a bit slow there is a hotkey in DOSBOX to increase the cycles, which should fix the issue.
I still have the L2 game files here (with my save file included :P): https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffakcyijnkjcpf8/Lemm2%20Icho.zip?dl=1
Run "L2-FIX.com" with the DOSBOX emulator and it all should work out (I think dragging "L2-FIX.com" onto the DOSBOX executable should work out, so no need for extra DOS commands). The fix is there to make savegames work again, which were bugged.
I have a full gold medal playthrough through the L2 DOS version uploaded on my Youtube channel as well ;): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBUTSHlISmM&list=PLKR1N9oJTTlIgaYxWoepL79bdwartclzY&index=2&t=0s
I hope this was helpful. :)
Simon:
Icho's advice is good: Use L2-FIX.EXE instead of the regular L2.EXE.
Before running L2-FIX.EXE, the L2-FIX.EXE must be put into the Lemmings 2 installation directory.
Reason: The effect of dragging executables onto the Dosbox icon is: Dosbox mounts the directory in which the executable sits, and runs the executable.
-- Simon
chris:
--- Quote from: IchoTolot on October 11, 2018, 09:04:30 PM ---Hi and welcome to the forums. :)
--- Quote from: chris on October 11, 2018, 08:44:30 PM ---The other problem I was never sure about years ago... The cannons sometimes through the firing animation but the lemming stayed inside. When another lemming came along they were both fired at once. Is that supposed to happen? It gave me great trouble on one of the Highland levels where there were cannons and trampolines, because the trampoline would only catch one lemming at a time and the other would splat.
--- End quote ---
This is a glitch that happens sometimes with the cannons (double load). I can't tell though if there are version in which this is more prominent.
--- End quote ---
Thanks for the confirmation. I'd long suspected it was a glitch rather than something intentional. At least I know it wasn't just me.
--- Quote from: IchoTolot on October 11, 2018, 09:04:30 PM ---
--- Quote ---Playing the floppy disk version on a 386, the levels don't advance. I complete a level, and it doesn't let me move to the next one. This seems like a bug. It is the same set of disks that worked years ago, on nearly the same type of computer. Any ideas please? Fixes? Possibly just different memory settings or something, although I'd have hoped the game would warn me. I can't play the game properly any more.
--- End quote ---
I would recommend using a DOSBOX version. DOSBOX is a DOS emulator for old DOS games and I had no problems playing through Lemmings 2 with this. (dosbox.com)
If the games runs a bit slow there is a hotkey in DOSBOX to increase the cycles, which should fix the issue.
I still have the L2 game files here (with my save file included :P): https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffakcyijnkjcpf8/Lemm2%20Icho.zip?dl=1
Run "L2-FIX.com" with the DOSBOX emulator and it all should work out (I think dragging "L2-FIX.com" onto the DOSBOX executable should work out, so no need for extra DOS commands). The fix is there to make savegames work again, which were bugged.
--- End quote ---
Actually, I think the first thing to try is using that fix on its own - I won't bother with DOSBox to start with. (Just downloading now - presumably that download includes the fix.)
Straying into the technicalities, does anyone here happen to know what goes wrong and how it's fixed? Newer version of MS-DOS causing problems, that sort of thing? I mentioned use of a computer from the era to help with diagnostics in case it was something like that. It struck me especially because I hadn't had anything like that problem when I'd originally played the game. Surprising that such a serious bug managed to slip past the authors. Should be headline news in articles on Lemmings 2. Well done whoever wrote the patch!
And thank you for the help Icho.
Best regards,
Chris
chris:
--- Quote from: Simon on October 11, 2018, 10:01:31 PM ---Icho's advice is good: Use L2-FIX.EXE instead of the regular L2.EXE.
Before running L2-FIX.EXE, the L2-FIX.EXE must be put into the Lemmings 2 installation directory.
Reason: The effect of dragging executables onto the Dosbox icon is: Dosbox mounts the directory in which the executable sits, and runs the executable.
-- Simon
--- End quote ---
Use instead of the normal L2.EXE, rather than something that patches the original executable, got it. Thanks for the useful detail.
And now I know what I'll be doing Saturday!
Chris
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