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Offline Proxima

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2005, 01:30:29 AM »
Quote from: 0xdeadbeef  link=1126208020/30#35 date=1126707407
I'd still still take the two songs missing in the Win95 version. I'm also looking for the songs for the 4 special levels (I only have a version of "menacing").
Additionally, I don't have a single song for ONML...

*AHEM*

I have some of these. Could you e-mail me the ones you have (you said you had some, right?) for the two missing musics in exchange?

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2005, 01:32:24 AM »
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)  link=1126208020/30#41 date=1126745284
It's really not worth trying.  Dog barks are not something that can be handled well by MIDI, at least standard MIDI.  Even the DOS version hardly sounds like dog barks, but at least the FM-synthesis capability of Adlib cards allows some degree of control over the sound timbre.  With MIDI you're basically stuck with the standard GM set of instruments, which doesn't include any sort of dog barks.

No, but I'd like a MIDI with the extra section even if it's just notes and not dog barks. The "tune section" repeated endlessly with no variety would just be very annoying. (Though it's a damn annoying music anyway, of course......)

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2005, 05:02:17 AM »
How about the Genesis version of Doggie?  It is most amenable to MIDI, and isn't too boring comparatively speaking.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2005, 05:06:48 AM »
Quote from: DragonsLover  link=1126208020/30#44 date=1126746947
So, you too you sequence songs by hand? Can I have a copy of your Lemmings&Cie songs please?

I thought you converted them, but I realise that it's not. Sorry!

I did convert the ONML ones, although even there, I still needed to do the following to produce something of Ahribar's satisfaction:

1) fix incorrect conversions (sometimes the notes' pitches are an octave too high or too low).  Also I need to explicitly pick out which tracks are percussion.

2) pick a good combination of instruments (especially made challenging since general MIDI lacks good control of sound timbre)

3) balance the volume amongst the parts

4) possibly add an ending so that it loops well in Cheapo

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For the special graphics level ones, I hand-made BeastI (it's very easy to do), and convert the BeastII one from SNES version.  For Awesome, I like the Amiga version the best, but there's no good way to do an automatic conversion for that one, so I decided to hand-sequence it--as a result I haven't finished with it yet.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2005, 06:05:57 AM »
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)  link=1126208020/45#47 date=1126760537
How about the Genesis version of Doggie?  It is most amenable to MIDI, and isn't too boring comparatively speaking.

It's been a while since I've heard it..... but yes, if you think you could find or make a MIDI of it, I'd be happy!

Incidentally, DragonsLover has now sent me three versions of Doggie, and the third one has a different second section -- not the same as the Amiga music but different again -- so I have a less annoying version now :) but that doesn't mean I'm stopping looking.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2005, 04:01:07 PM »
Ahribar, this song is the one on Atari ST.

Just listen yourself:

Lemmings Atari ST songs

They are all there! Download "Lemmings_04.ym". You'll need STSound program to listen the song, just go here:

Leonard Homepage

Go into the ST-Sound section and select Download. Download the program there (St-Sound v5.5 for Windows). After, run the program, click on the disk icon and choose the files "Lemmings_04.ym". Listen! :D
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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2005, 06:03:28 PM »
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)  link=1126208020/30#42 date=1126745394
40 seconds of nothing is definitely weird.  Feel free to send the problem MIDI file to me and I'll take a look when I have the time.
Actually it's almost all files. Nr. 17 ("Forest Green" I think) even has 1:20 without music, BUT there's something strange: Nr. 17 has 1:20 of music and 1:20 of nothing. When I click on the time bar at e.g. 1:40 after it had ended, some music is played again: parts of the song I already heared within the 1:20. So I think it's a problem with my music player.
However, I send this midi to you (guestlevels).
@DragonsLover: How long should the track 17 actually play? 1:20 or 2:40 or even something else?

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2005, 12:35:19 AM »
Quote from: 0xdeadbeef  link=1126208020/15#26 date=1126653615

There are MOD libraries available for Java, so this wouldn't be too much of a hassle, I guess. However, as far as I understand, even on the Amiga, the songs are not in a standard MOD format (Protracker/Fastracker, whatever), but in a custom "Soundplayer" format.

If I had the Amiga songs in a Tracker-compatible MOD-format, this would be surely a good alternative to the MIDI format.


http://it.travisbsd.org/lemmings/files/lemmings_music_amiga_mod.zip

Tim2 doesn't sound too good, but the rest are very close to the originals.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2005, 01:50:36 AM »
Quote from: geoo89  link=1126208020/45#51 date=1126807408
@DragonsLover: How long should the track 17 actually play? 1:20 or 2:40 or even something else?

That MIDI works fine on my computer. It's 1 minute 19 seconds long.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2005, 04:07:19 AM »
1:19:10 exactly!

That's strange! I don't think it's my MIDI file that is incorrect, but your player. Which one you used? :-/
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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2005, 06:09:05 PM »
Since I also have other problems with it, you don't have problems with the midi file and it actually takes only 1:19 I think my player itself is the problem.
I think I'll switch to a different one.

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2005, 08:25:50 PM »
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)  link=1126208020/45#47 date=1126760537
How about the Genesis version of Doggie?  It is most amenable to MIDI, and isn't too boring comparatively speaking.

I just remembered that I never replied to this; and now that I'm home again I have access to the Genesis emulator once more.

I've had a listen, and I really don't think I want to use that version; I'd much rather stick with the one I have from DragonsLover. So that's one less for you to worry about  B)

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Re: So, what have I missed?
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2005, 04:36:10 AM »
I'm gonna sequence a new Doggie song soon. I'll see for the time I'll have because my vacation time is almost over! :-(
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