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Offline Flopsy

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 09:00:37 AM »
Due to the (ahem) copious amounts of swearing done in that first Lix session, editing my video is going to take some time. Would people prefer one giant video (~ 3 hours) or several shorter ones (around 30 minutes)? The shorter ones could get uploaded periodically as I edit it, but the giant one would keep it all in one place.

Ichotolot is uploading the multiplayer session as well.

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 01:29:34 AM »
Well, after HOURS of editing, my Lix video is finally up, with music added for extra effect!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxJe2m1WgwU&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 09:10:14 PM »
I'm wondering if I should try getting into these sessions at some point, but I've seen the chaos that can result in 2 player Lemmings matches. Trying to keep track of what 8 players are doing would probably make my head explode. :8():
Plus, my internet connection is often spotty and my computer is 7 years old, so if my head didn't explode then my computer might.

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2017, 12:45:09 AM »
I'm wondering if I should try getting into these sessions at some point, but I've seen the chaos that can result in 2 player Lemmings matches. Trying to keep track of what 8 players are doing would probably make my head explode. :8():
Plus, my internet connection is often spotty and my computer is 7 years old, so if my head didn't explode then my computer might.

The best you can do nin10doadict is give it a try. You can always leave the session at any time and there is no obligation to stay for the whole thing.
I'm sure Simon can drum in on this but I don't think having bad internet would affect the game much for other people so I wouldn't worry about that.
I'm sure Lix would work well on your 7 year old machine as well, again Simon would know more on this.

I had my first session on the Sunday just gone and I don't regret it, it's a ton of fun. It's a steep learning curve because the likes of Icho, Simon, Akseli, Raymanni and geoo are really good at the game but there is tons of banter and lots of fun if you like social occasions.

IchoTolot and Arty have uploaded the entire Sunday session to their youtube channel as well if you haven't already seen that.

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2017, 01:37:30 AM »
Yes, you're invited to give it a try! Each game takes a few minutes only, and you can join or leave after every game.

I can't keep track of 8 players either. We try to focus on important parts and ignore all the unimportant areas. I miss a lot during play: I've In the last session, both Icho and Flopsy reported physics bug during voicechat, and I missed those completely. I saw them only on the recordings.

Lix with bad internet: Low bandwith is perfectly fine, the networking protocol relays only the assignments, no physics. If you have lag spikes, try and see: 1-3 seconds of lag is no problem. With 5-10 seconds of lag, the server might conclude that you have disconnected. Even if that happens, others can finish without problems, and you can reconnect for the next game.

Lix on old hardware: I don't know what will happen, it'll be good feedback for me. The physics will speed up to adjust for computation lag, that's usually no problem. Large maps can be resource-hungry because Lix savestates internally often. Crashes can happen, but even in the 3.5-hour session with 6-8 players, only 1 player crashed a single time for out of VRAM. Still, I take crashes seriously. In the long term, I want to optimize for less memory.

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2017, 01:49:27 AM »
Simon, after watching my video, I discovered a very strange, unexplainable glitch where one of my Lixes was assigned a bomber when i never touched the bomber skill, nor did my bomber count decrease. You can see it happen in my video at 2:41:03
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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2017, 02:43:29 AM »
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one of my Lixes was assigned a bomber when i never touched the bomber skill, nor did my bomber count decrease. You can see it happen in my video at 2:41:03

Looks like a blue and a purple lix stacked exactly, and the purple lix got assigned exploder.

Your own lixes are always drawn on top. Even after the explosion, the blue lix is still alive. The clustering is plausible because many lixes were clustered earlier in a narrow digger pit.

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« Last Edit: September 16, 2017, 02:48:53 AM by Simon »

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2017, 03:05:04 AM »
That explains it. It sure looked like my lix died, especially because my lix counter decremented right after the explosion.
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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 01:10:54 PM »
A reminder of the upcoming Lix multiplayer session today! :thumbsup: :lix-smile:

Time copied from the first post: 18:00 UTC (= 11:00 a.m. Pacific daylight savings, 12:00 noon in Utah, 19:00 in the UK, 20:00 in Germany or Austria, and 21:00 in Finland)

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2017, 02:16:21 PM »
I'm not sure if I can attend (I've caught a terrible cold) but i will be watching Simon's stream. :lix-grin:

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2017, 05:59:56 PM »
I'm on the mumble server, on the Lix server, and streaming at:
www.twitch.tv/simonnaar

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2017, 06:01:40 PM »
I shall be hoping in shortly

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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 10:39:18 PM »
Thanks for the game,  was a lot of fun!

I did AMAZINGLY well despite not playing for so long.

Sorry for being stupid with mumble but it is a little confusing; "add server" makes me think " creating a new server" not joining one
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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2017, 10:53:55 PM »
when will the next session be? Best times for me is Sunday morning (2:00 PM GMT+0) or Thursday nights (11:30 PM GMT+0) that is; that's the only time I'll be somewhat reliable on. But I can try to make it to other occasions too.
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Re: Multiplayer: Sun Sep 10th, and Tue Sep 19th
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2017, 02:23:35 PM »
Arty, your video from 2017-09-14 captures Lix's 4:3 aspect ratio in a 16:10 video. This creates dead space at the sides.

Please prune the dead space from your next vid. Movie players insert black stripes automatically. The problem with dead space in the video is risking dead space on all 4 sides.

If you prefer 16:10 for videos, you can set Lix itself to a 16:10 resolution.

Otherwise, the movie came out really well!

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