Henceforth, "the guest" -> "ccexplore"

[ccexplore]

Alright, so I finally registered. &#A0;B)

I actually did want to register as "the guest", but alas, like most online systems, any username with the keyword "guest" is not allowed, and apparently yaBB is no exception.

So I ended up using my older (but still very much active; in fact, most e-mails to me from this forum goes there) e-mail address as the username. &#A0;Feel free to e-mail to either one (ccexplore or guestlevels at yahoo) as you wish.

Anyway, this is just to let everyone know that over the next few days I'm going to wean myself away from guest postings, and that despite being a very different username, I'm still the exact same person (last I checked, anyhow). &#A0; &#A0;I'll still be using www.geocities.com/guestlevels as the place to upload stuff to.

Oh yeah, I mentioned that I will register when I have something to offer, and I'm indeed true to my words. &#A0;It isn't quite what I had in mind, but it's still something offer...for details, stay tuned on the Level Design thread.......

[Isu]

So you are ccexplore?!? =8O

Now what a surprise! This is all to much for one day!

I'd heard of people referring to ccexplore elsewhere but it never crossed my mind that the mysterious "guest" actually was him.

Honestly, I had no idea. X_X

[tumble_weed]

does "cc" mean anything?

[Shvegait]

Identity revealed. *Googles ccexplore*

[ccexplore]

LOL, actually, I'm completely unrelated to the PocketPC File Manager or whatever it is that Google revealed.  I am however the same person that Google revealed to have once been active on a board concerning an old and somewhat obscure game from the Windows Entertainment Pack, which is where the "cc" part of the username ultimately came from.

[guest]

Chip's challenge? That was a guess but it seems likely. I made a list of all the passwords, and later discovered that doing level 70 removes the passwords. X_X
Oh well...

[Shvegait]

Chip's Challenge was a fun game. I remember playing it 10 years ago... Wow, so long...  X_X Still a few levels I never passed though...

And how is "Tile World"?

[ccexplore]

Chip's Challenge was a fun game. I remember playing it 10 years ago... Wow, so long... &#A0;X_X Still a few levels I never passed though...

Yep, it was indeed Chip's Challenge.  It was a fairly fun game, although towards the higher levels it eventually becomes (in my opinion anyway) a little uncreative and frustrating, with mazes (particularly with invisible/fake walls and the like--nasty!) becoming the main feature.

And how is "Tile World"?

Funny you mentioned that.  In fact, now that I looked back, there are many parallels between this group and that group.

Roughly speaking, Tile World is to Chip's Challenge as Cheapo is to Lemmings.  Although Tile World does not use its own level format like Cheapo does, but just reuses the same level format as CC's.  And because CC is tile-based rather than pixel-based and only presents the player with a 9 tile x 9 tile view, the concept of "styles" is necessarily a bit more limited, and consequently does not seem to take hold much (well, that, and the fact that the people in that community is so score-obsessed).  There's also ChipEdit in the CC world, which needless to say is the CC's analog of LemEdit.  All that have existed already before my encounter with the CC community.

Another parallel is that in both here and there, I played a bit of a hacker role.  In CC I actually completely disassembled the game mechanics (bugs included) behind it, which undoubtedly helped some players to achieve better scores.

But ultimately, I still think Lemmings is a much more enjoyable game to me compare to CC.  B)

[guest]

Yep, it was indeed Chip's Challenge.  It was a fairly fun game, although towards the higher levels it eventually becomes (in my opinion anyway) a little uncreative and frustrating, with mazes (particularly with invisible/fake walls and the like--nasty!) becoming the main feature.

Ugh, I agree. One of the most annoying levels is the last, 149. It is just stupid to put fire under random blocks. All you have to do is try it over and over again, until you find out where all the fire is. The first half of the game is actually pretty good, then the levels get worse from there on.

[ccexplore]

Ugh, I agree. One of the most annoying levels is the last, 149. It is just stupid to put fire under random blocks.

Interesting you mentioned that.  One thing I learned from the CC community is that Microsoft's version of the game is actually loosely based on an original version of the game from the Atari Lynx (some obscure handheld that died with the Atari company back in the 80s).  It turns out that in the Lynx version, there's a bug (which the game developer decided to leave in, because it makes the arrow buttons more responsive) in the handling of block pushing, such that you can push a block sideways without having to move into the space the block occupied.

For example, say there's a block on Chip's left.  If you push "up" and "left" at the same time on the Atari version, Chip will move up and at the same time the block on the left will be pushed (it will move left).  As a result you can see what's underneath the block without moving onto it.

But of course, Microsoft's version does not have this (plus it has quite a number of its own bugs--ultimately it differs more from the Atari version than how Cheapo differs from Lemmings).  So in the Microsoft version, level 149 is downright punishing.

(Not to say that it's really any better on the Atari since it's still about hunting for the hidden exit. *yawn*)

[Mindless]

WTF? I wondered where you were...

*begins to peice mindlessness back together*

[LemSteven]

Ugh, I agree. One of the most annoying levels is the last, 149. It is just stupid to put fire under random blocks. All you have to do is try it over and over again, until you find out where all the fire is. The first half of the game is actually pretty good, then the levels get worse from there on.

I've beaten most of the levels in CC, and I'll agree it is annoying when they put fire under the blocks.  I would always freak out when I died because of this.  It's just as annoying as the hidden traps in Lemmings.  Other things that annoyed me were the levels in which the entire "puzzle" was simply avoiding bad guys (especially level 91), and the ridiculously long levels that can be easily lost near the very end (e.g. level 87).  Otherwise, CC is a very good game, and in my opinion, the second-best puzzle game out there (Second only to Lemmings, of course! )

BTW, this talk about CC seems to be out of place.  Shouldn't we be discussing it in "Other Games?"

[Shvegait]

Perhaps, but the whole reason we're talking about it is the "cc" part of "ccexplore", and this thread is pretty much about his name, so I think it's on-topic

[Proxima]

Any download links for this game? I'd love to try something that someone considers "the second-best puzzle game out there" (although it would have to impress me a lot for me to rank it above Repton 3).....

[ccexplore]

Hmm...a download may be somewhat unlikely, but I can e-mail you my copy.  Sometime this weekend.

[tumble_weed]

um actually there IS a download for it...I actaully downloaded it less than a month ago I pretty much gave up playing it...i don't think i've ever finished it...but even though before I downloaded it I hadn't played it since...maybe... 8 or so years I still managed to remember the password for the last level...weird.

And about the fire under the blocks...I agree it doesn't really add anything to the game, they may as well remove the blocks, it would make the game far better...by having fire under the blocks it punishes the user for exploring around the level.

Anyway if you like CC maybe you should play Rescue Rover, and actually there's a game called clone...it's pretty much another pushing blocks game...but you control multiple characters at once.

[guest]

Here is a list of all the passwords. I got them from the very loosely encrypted chips.dat file. If you pass level 70 it unlocks all the passwords so you don't need them anymore.
1 BDHP 2 JXMJ 3 ECBQ 4 YMCJ
5 TQKB 6 WNLD 7 FXQO 8 NHAG
9 KCRE 10 UVWS 11 CNPE 12 WVHI
13 OCKS 14 BTDY 15 COZQ 16 SKKK
17 AJMG 18 HMJL 19 MRHR 20 KGFP
21 UGRW 22 WZIN 23 HUVE 24 UNIZ
25 PQGV 26 YVYJ 27 IGGZ 28 UJDO
29 QGOL 30 BQZP 31 RYMS 32 PEFS
33 BQSN 34 NQFI 35 VDTM 36 NXIS
37 VQNK 38 BIFA 39 ICXY 40 YWFH
41 GKWD 42 LMFU 43 UJDP 44 TXHL
45 OVPZ 46 HDQJ 47 LXPP 48 JYSF
49 PPXI 50 QBDH 51 IGGJ 52 PPHT
53 CGNX 54 ZMGC 55 SJES 56 FCJE
57 UBXU 58 YBLT 59 BLDM 60 ZYVI
61 RMOW 62 TIGW 63 GOHX 64 IJPQ
65 UPUN 66 ZIKZ 67 GGJA 68 RTDI
69 NLLY 70 GCCG 71 LAJM 72 EKFT
73 QCCR 74 MKNH 75 MJDV 76 NMRH
77 FHIC 78 GRMO 79 JINU 80 EVUG
81 SCWF 82 LLIO 83 OVPJ 84 UVEO
85 LEBX 86 FLHH 87 YJYS 88 WZYV
89 VCZO 90 OLLM 91 JPQG 92 DTMI
93 REKF 94 EWCS 95 BIFQ 96 BIFQ
97 IOCS 98 TKWD 99 XUVU 100 QJXR
101 RPIR 102 VDDU 103 PTAC 104 KWNL
105 YNEG 106 NXYB 107 ECRE 108 LIOC
109 KZQR 110 XBAO 111 KRQJ 112 NJLA
113 PTAS 114 JWNL 115 EGRW 116 HXMF
117 FPZT 118 OSCW 119 PHTY 120 FLXP
121 BPYS 122 SJUM 123 YKZE 124 TASX
125 MYRT 126 QRLD 127 JMWZ 128 FTLA
129 HEAN 130 XHIZ 131 FIRD 132 ZYFA
133 TIGG 134 XPPH 135 LYWO 136 LUZL
137 HPPX 138 LUJT 139 VLHH 140 SJUK
141 MCJE 142 UCRY 143 OKOR 144 GVXQ
145 TONY 146 JHEN 147 COZA 148 RGSK
149 DIGW

[guest]

Here's where I got it: http://takegame.com/arcade/htm/chipschallenge.htm

[tumble_weed]

actually after playing it I realised that a lot of the levels are VERY repetitive or involve walking around for ages, that's one thing that annoys me a lot about the game.