Author Topic: Resident GigaLems - Prerelease Testing! (READY! we need 3 more volunteers) (Read 13280 times)

GigaLem · « **on:** October 11, 2015, 07:20:56 AM »

I need your Help!
I am looking for volunteers to test Resident GigaLems
I am looking the NASTY backroutes, so i can fix them now, and work on the smaller ones later
I'll also need you help on how to fix them.
Once this is set up there will be five volunteers, go ahead ask up (i'll Pm you the link and Rules)
once these BIG backroutes are fixed, i'll release the final product
I'll be sending the PM to those who are volunteers
Current Testers
Namida, Ichotolot
Got any Talisman ideas post em here
Also there is no music pack for the .exe (i forgot to remove that from the read me) the music is in there already

namida · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2015, 07:28:56 AM »

I'll be a bit busy over the next few days. If you're still looking for testers later this week (around Thursday or Friday), I could help out with it.

IchoTolot · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2015, 10:05:40 AM »

I don't know why you are unsure using Dropbox, but ok. $:-\$

Quote from: GigaLem on October 11, 2015, 07:20:56 AM

I'll also need you help on how to fix them.

I can help you finding the backroutes and testing the pack with my feedback in general, but the "how" is your part of the work.
I don't know if you prefer brute force steelplates, skill palette changes or little terrain changes. This is your choice.
Imagine what is possible with the given skills and after that make changes. Plus this trains the ability to prevent backroutes right when you create stuff.

I can show you a bunch of backroutes and maybe some advice to fix them, but you have to do the prevention.

GigaLem · « **Reply #3 on:** October 11, 2015, 08:28:37 PM »

Do you guy know of any other places i can put it for download?

GigaLem · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2015, 09:59:14 PM »

Okay found a place
Update to the first post in a second

GigaLem · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2015, 10:37:41 PM »

Its in the system.dat its in the folder of the project WHY WONT IT LOAD?!

mobius · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:25:31 PM »

I'll volunteer to do some playtesting

GigaLem · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:26:30 PM »

As soon as i can get that problem out of the way
i'll pm you mobius

mobius · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2015, 11:35:22 PM »

As to your error here's something to try: if you have any levels with gimmicks activated: set a music to it, doesn't matter what. If a gimmick is active on a level with no music designated it won' play. This is an older glitch, for all I know namida may have fixed it already.

Also; In order for someone to help you *fix* a backroute you'd need to send them the intended solution, which I may or may not be willing to do. Sometimes if a level is very fun and puzzling I want to figure it out myself and would rather not see the solution right away.

GigaLem · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2015, 01:08:14 AM »

Its the G_lab files its looking for

namida · « **Reply #10 on:** October 12, 2015, 03:11:44 AM »

You forgot to include a copy of the Lab set in your pack's data files.

Or if you definitely didn't forget, then try opening and re-saving (in the editor) the level that's giving you this problem.

If all else fails, send me the level file of the level that's having this problem (and your customized version of the Lab style, since it sounds like you've made a customized one? - so I'll need that in order to properly open your level).

GigaLem · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2015, 04:18:55 AM »

Well i put in Lab.dat and Gspec18 and Vspec18 and it still gives me this problem, I cannot find g_lab.dat in the neolemmix styles just lab.dat

namida · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2015, 05:19:30 AM »

It shouldn't be looking for "g_lab.dat" if "lab.dat" exists. Can you send me a copy of your project's data files (via PM - if the file size is too large, feel free to leave out the music, but please include everything else), along with answers to all of the following questions:

1. Which level(s) is/are having this problem?
2. Are there any Lab graphic set levels that do not have this problem? If so, which ones?
3. Are there any levels in other graphic sets that have this problem? If so, which ones?
4. Do the levels work fine when you try to play them in NeoCustLemmix, either through the editor's playtest mode or loading a single level file from the title screen?

GigaLem · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2015, 06:29:03 AM »

Quote from: namida on October 12, 2015, 05:19:30 AM

It shouldn't be looking for "g_lab.dat" if "lab.dat" exists. Can you send me a copy of your project's data files (via PM - if the file size is too large, feel free to leave out the music, but please include everything else), along with the following information:

1. Which level(s) is/are having this problem?
2. Are there any Lab graphic set levels that do not have this problem? If so, which ones?
3. Are there any levels in other graphic sets that have this problem? If so, which ones?
4. Do the levels work fine when you try to play them in NeoCustLemmix, either through the editor's playtest mode or loading a single level file from the title screen?

The lab tileset is giving me this problem, any lab level in the pack has that problem

IchoTolot · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2015, 03:06:58 PM »

Played through the first rank + 4 levels of the 2nd today (replays and overall critic is comming via pm prob tomorrow) and there are a bunch of really good levels there.

BUT I have a few general things I must shout out (rant incomming and sry for harsh words here, but this has to be said!):

HIDDEN TRAPS + HIDDEN EXIT ACTIVATION BUTTONS + HIDDEN SKILLS HAVE TO BE VISIBLE!!!!!!!!!

Some levels were REALLY making me furious because of this stuff!

(and it is not very easy getting me into furious berserk mode

)
I ragequitted rank 2 level 5, because of tons of invis mines!
And the "guess the right teleporters", "oh there is a hidden pickup skill" and "where is the button in the terrain" games aren't fun either!

Some time limits were not nessesary and sometimes Zombies are just there, but here I have to look again and pm you where they should really go/ reworked.
But these general things you can put on the fix list.

EDIT: One music track is way too loud. I will pm you about this to avoid music track spoilers.

GigaLem · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2015, 05:04:08 PM »

Well now there are a few changes i could make (or maybe alot, most likely alot)
1-2: Remove the time limit
1-9: Add "X"s to show switch location (Just like Apocalypse 5)
2-5: Make Pickup skills visible, make the mines more visible (Why we're they hidden, well the trigger area was picky, Sorry about that ichotolot

)
Theres gonna be alot more i just know it
oh by the way when you reach 5-1 see that red spot in the dirt? thats a switch indicator (again like Apocalypse 5)
if i had to guess the loud track would be Track 16 (Song 3 in the bonus rating) is there an option in Audacity to lower the volume of the song itself?

IchoTolot · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2015, 05:14:48 PM »

Quote from: GigaLem on October 13, 2015, 05:04:08 PM

Well now there are a few changes i could make (or maybe alot, most likely alot)
1-2: Remove the time limit
1-9: Add "X"s to show switch location (Just like Apocalypse 5)
2-5: Make Pickup skills visible, make the mines more visible (Why we're they hidden, well the trigger area was picky, Sorry about that ichotolot )
Theres gonna be alot more i just know it
oh by the way when you reach 5-1 see that red spot in the dirt? thats a switch indicator (again like Apocalypse 5)
if i had to guess the loud track would be Track 16 (Song 3 in the bonus rating) is there an option in Audacity to lower the volume of the song itself?

Sounds good!

Again feedback in detail (+ some replays) is comming tomorrow.

GigaLem · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2015, 05:52:22 AM »

I hate Waiting for feed back from other people, i know im not the patient type
I still need a couple more people to test

namida · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2015, 05:57:57 AM »

As I said, I've been busy this week, but I'll see what I can do over the next few days. I should be able to at least try out a rank or so.

Is there any specific rank or levels you'd like me to focus on, or just whatever I feel like playing?

GigaLem · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2015, 04:52:36 PM »

Play what ever levels you like

GigaLem · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2015, 03:30:17 PM »

Update: There is only one week of testing left to go, if you want to volunteer please ask up
oh and if you have a back ground graphic idea (320x104 pixels to be correct) please, PLEASE send it here, i really need one, i've tried finding one and my search has been unsuccessful

IchoTolot · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2015, 06:03:55 PM »

Quote from: GigaLem on October 17, 2015, 03:30:17 PM

Update: There is only one week of testing left to go, if you want to volunteer please ask up
oh and if you have a back ground graphic idea (320x104 pixels to be correct) please, PLEASE send it here, i really need one, i've tried finding one and my search has been unsuccessful

Make the testing phase longer!
Wait until at least 1 or 2 of the testers are through all the levels, so you can fix the pack before the final release. The point of testing is to eliminate the errors before and not after the release.
Don't make the mistake that most of the big publishers make! Use the feedback and fix the stuff before releasing.

My status: Currently through with rank 3, but next week I won't have much time to play.

GigaLem · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2015, 06:08:56 PM »

Okay 2 weeks of testing left maybe, a late release if i have to