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Which level did you find harder?

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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #285 on: March 30, 2022, 12:14:09 PM »
Okay its time to back play lemmings again. Finally since november 2021 i finally got beat Lemmings Plus 1 pack. Post all Psycho mode levels in playlist. I think i got find some backroute solutions too. Not sure is those new ones or not.

1-30 levels in order. recorded with OBS studio (good quality)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Cn2MW-VOj1V21CA0B3izcG7WBAhF2eD

About back track routes?
Psycho 13 Go High and Low
You can beat this level very easily used only roof route. I think gamecreateor not are intented make its like this. Its possible avoid those metals using two lemmings. I think you can even save more lemmings using that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJVyn8ve9JA&t=8s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Psycho 27 No time to die part two. Really massive backroute. I beat level in 1 minutes 13 seconds. 2 minutes time limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOU2LfWxFk&t=1s&ab_channel=metroidmaster88

Also pretty similar way Psycho 20 No time to die part one. Its not really that time saver.
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #286 on: April 21, 2022, 06:01:43 AM »
Hello namida,

I have completed the first two ranks of LPIV. Replays attached and feedback incoming. Also, the link to my LP of the pack: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJuZZJslLqFjrOYrNnAyjK_k. Enjoy! :P Although, I'm not sure how much of it you've been able to watch due to how you said that your internet access has been very limited for the past few weeks. In any case, I think you've been aware of my LP (I've pinged you on Discord as well!), so it's available whenever you're able to view at your own leisure and time :)

General Feedback

The 6th pack in the series chronologically (after LPI, LPII, LPIII, Holiday Plus, and LP Omega), this is slightly shorter than LPO, and according to the OP of this topic, it seems that this pack isn't as hard as LPIII. Indeed, I'm nearly through with the Twisted rank, and save for the odd level or two which I struggled with longer than necessary, it definitely hasn't felt too hard. Perhaps things will change for the final few levels of the Twisted rank, as well as the final rank? Even then, I will absolutely look forward to the next pack, which is LPV, as that is considered one of namida's hardest packs, as well as the pack after it, LPO2, which is arguably even harder than LPV, as I shall see how much of my solving skills will be tested and challenged. The high difficulties of them do worry me somewhat, but then again I've gotten through both United and Lemmings Uncharted, although I can't say the same with Nepsterlems :-\

Despite LPIV's supposed lower difficulty, I'm still enjoying the pack very much! Once again, I must emphasize that while hard levels are the type that I love playing and solving, I enjoy levels of all difficulties and hence pretty much enjoy any pack :P

Smooth Rank Feedback

These were all very quick solves, although Smooth 20 was pretty much the only level that took a while, if you consider taking 18 minutes to get it solved a long time :laugh: Nevertheless, there were still some gems in this rank. Smooth 10, Smooth 16, and Smooth 20 were my favorites in this rank! :thumbsup:

Levels that I see which can be challenging for less experienced players: Smooth 8, Smooth 13, Smooth 18, Smooth 19, and Smooth 20.



Bumpy Rank Feedback

Levels are a tad bit harder here, though they're still nothing too difficult or over-the-top hard. In particular, I'm amazed that I figured out the repeat of Smooth 20 far faster :laugh:

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I will continue more with the pack soon and post after I finish each rank. 25 more levels to go! ;)
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #287 on: April 22, 2022, 06:05:22 AM »
Twisted rank completed. More replays and feedback ;)

Twisted Rank Feedback

Some of the levels here were even harder, but that's the way it should be progressing from one rank to the next. Solving times in general pretty much slowed considerably here. Even then, after some time, I managed to get through them all

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Only the Insane rank remains. Here goes nothing! Played and solved only the first level of the rank so far, and yea, the rank is already shaping up to be quite difficult from just the first level alone, so I have a feeling this will be a rank where I'll be struggling a lot. So close to the end, though!
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #288 on: April 25, 2022, 09:33:23 AM »
Insane rank completed and hence I have solved all of LPIV. My entire replay collection is attached and more feedback.

Insane Rank Feedback

The hardest levels of the pack are pretty much here, though honestly I felt more challenged by the Twisted rank than I did here :P Then again, solving times pretty much came to a crawl in the Insane rank, where eventually at some point late in the rank I could only get about 2 or 3 levels solved rather than several so easily. The only time I got a huge break was when I managed to get 6 Insane levels solved in the same video, Insane 2 through Insane 7. Even then, there were still plenty of true gems in this rank ;)

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Despite being considerably shorter than LPO, I still enjoyed this pack very much. It starts off easy, although there's still some challenging levels in the first rank due to having plenty of levels with very limited skillsets. It then gets challenging especially starting with the Twisted rank, culminating in some of the hardest levels in the Insane rank. All in all, I would recommend this pack for others to play, although it's certainly not for beginners.

Well, the next time I LP another pack of yours I will look forward to it, as LPV is next due to me taking on the packs in chronological order. I look forward to seeing how much I be tested and how much of a struggle it'll be, as it's supposed to be one of your hardest packs, even more than LPIII. I especially look forward to the one after LPV, LPO2, which is purportedly even harder than LPV. The high difficulties do worry me somewhat, but I'm willing to take them on in the form of an LP.

Thanks for LPIV, and hope you're doing well! ;)
« Last Edit: April 25, 2022, 10:02:41 AM by kaywhyn »
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #289 on: August 27, 2022, 08:45:10 AM »
Hello,

First 3 ranks of LPV solved. Replays attached, as well as some feedback. Also, link to my LP: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJssQ5PiEfqGDzILj2y8Cy9r. Enjoy! :P

General Thoughts on the Pack

LPV is the fifth pack of namida's numerically in the Plus series, ignoring LPO and LP Holiday, as they're kind of side entries in a way. LPV's difficulty is advertised as "very hard," even harder than LPIII, with both LPOII and LPA even harder, the former which I will take on next after finishing LPV, while the latte I've already completed. The first two ranks didn't challenge me as much as I thought they would, although the difficulty started picking up even more with the Edgy rank. So far, I've only completed the first three levels of the Unruly rank, and the third level managed to give me a lot of problems, so I'm definitely starting to feel the difficulty here, and I'm sure that will continue to hold, as it is the penultimate rank and I've been told there's quite some nasty ones in this and the final rank, especially near the end of each one and hence I'll be promised the advertised difficulty of "very hard."

Some levels took longer than they needed to, but it was mostly due to things in the solution being extremely difficult to spot because of how very well-hidden they are. As a result, namida has been kind enough to tell me that me getting stumped isn't due to my own stupidity (you can hear in the LP plenty of times where I keep being so self-deprecating and telling myself that I am a dummy), but rather just the solution is very well hidden. Good to know! Makes sense now that I think about it, as I managed both United and Uncharted, the packs I currently consider the hardest available on the Forums, though I can't say the same with Nepsterlems, as that is a pack that I have not yet finished because I've been stumped on the first level of the final rank for about 2 years now.

For everyone else, I have the tendency to doubt and not have much confidence in my own abilities, which is why I sometimes have a lot of moments where I feel down about myself and wonder why I'm not good enough. However, I'm often told by people IRL to not be so hard on myself who have reminded me how much good I have accomplished in life, and have given me reassurance that I/I'm did/doing just fine.

Blissful Rank Feedback

As with some of the previous Plus packs, a lot of X-of-everything levels in this rank, although not necessarily with the full 8 skillset panel, since the pack was made at a time when the skill panel wasn't expanded to the now current 10. Nothing particularly difficult in this rank. The first 4 levels introduce us to each of the new tilesets featured in this pack: Abstract, Mineshaft, Honeycomb, and Machine. This isn't the first time I have played levels in each of these tilesets, but rather this is the very first time these have been seen in any of namida's Plus packs. The levels that gave me more trouble than I thought they would were Blissful 4 - Come Home Lemming, Blissful 8 - Rust Buster, and Blissful 15 - Converging Mechanism, all Machine levels, interestingly enough :XD: The first is one that can trip you up if you are caught off guard and didn't take into account some things, especially with the teleporter. The second was all due to not paying attention the save requirement, as I am a Lemmings player who still internalizes having to save every lemming even though on some levels you are required to have some lemmings get killed in order to be solved or losses are acceptable. Finally, the third was simply due to not realizing

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My favorites of the Blissful rank were Blissful 12 - No Way Out! and Blissful 13 - Let's Do Some Mining. The latter is a very interesting miners only level.


Touchy Rank Feedback

Levels were a bit harder here, but still nothing too overly hard.

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Edgy Rank Feedback

The levels increase in difficulty even more here, but once again nothing very over the top hard yet. Then again, it definitely helps that I have solved so many other level packs before taking on LPV, so all that experience comes in handy!

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All rightie, 27 more levels to go! I will post again when I finish the Unruly rank, and one last time when I finish the Outrageous rank ;) I'm liking the pack a lot so far! :)   
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #290 on: August 27, 2022, 11:40:31 AM »
I did struggle with "Come Home Lemming" as well. I think I've seen IchoTolot's solution before and it's actually quite a bit simpler than both of ours.

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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #291 on: August 30, 2022, 07:31:38 AM »
Unruly rank finished. More replays and more feedback ;)

Unruly Rank Feedback

Even harder levels here, and two levels of the rank needed more than one video to get solved. Solving times are definitely slowing down, but still plenty of great levels here too!

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One rank remains! Up at Outrageous 5, which I already had an attempt at but couldn't get it solved. I will try again later and I will post one final time when I get through the rest of the pack! ;)
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #292 on: August 31, 2022, 11:37:18 PM »
Outrageous rank solved and hence I have solved all of LPV. My entire replay collection is attached, as well as more feedback ;)

Outrageous Rank Feedback

The hardest levels of the pack are supposedly found in this rank. Once again, a lot of wonderful levels here, and I was definitely challenged appropriately here!

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All right, this makes another Lemmings Plus pack solved. At first, I didn't believe this pack being harder than LPIII, but now that I have played all of LPV, I certainly believe it now. Some of the later levels are quite nasty and difficult. In particular, there are even some in the Blissful rank that can catch you off guard if you don't pay attention to the details, such as when I did Blissful 4 and Blissful 8 :forehead: However, Blissful is overall a very doable rank, it's Touchy where things get difficult, with some near the end quite challenging. Then the difficulty continues to climb more with Edgy, and then overall the Unruly and Outrageous ranks were difficult throughout. I think the difficulty being higher than LPIII can also been seen in that very shortly in the Blissful rank you already get into very limited skillset levels and puzzles. There are a few open-ended levels past the Blissful rank, but they're far and few in between. Nevertheless, there were plenty of great levels I saw throughout the pack.

I immensely enjoyed LPV for the clever puzzles in many of the levels. namida has the belief that LPIV's his weakest entry, but I honestly disagree there, as LPIV is quite a strong pack IMO. LPV is even better, but I enjoy both of those packs.

Next Plus pack on my to-play list will be LPO2, as that is the next one chronologically, which is how I've been tackling the packs, except for Alpha, as I ended up doing that first, at a time long before I got into LPing level packs. However, I likely won't start LPing LPO2 until December at the earliest. The higher difficulty does worry me a bit, but I'm quite excited to get into the pack once I do so. So, be on the lookout for that LP and see if I will get through the pack, or get badly stumped at some point and not make any progress eventually :laugh:

Thanks again for LPV, namida! :thumbsup: 
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #293 on: September 01, 2022, 01:27:35 AM »
Yeah I'm pretty sure Colorful Arty said that LPV was hard from the get-go, but I really don't think so. That could be said of Alpha though, as I was stuck on the FIRST LEVEL. LPO II does start off easy though, so I wouldn't think it would be harder than Alpha.
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #294 on: January 11, 2023, 07:36:28 AM »
Finished Lemmings Plus III today, including all but 3 talismans. This is an excellent pack, probably my favourite in the series of the ones I've played so far (I, some of II, III, some of VI, some of O and some of OII).

I solved all but 15 levels without any hints. The ones I needed hints for were:

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These are my favourite levels in the pack:

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Although I have needed some help with solving this pack, I'm fairly happy with my overall performance. I've managed to get most of the talismans, including 100% saved on Dodgy 9 Synergistic Effect (which surpasses the 9/10 talisman) :lemcat:

It's a very difficult pack, probably just out of reach of most casual players, and perfect for those wanting an extra challenge after completing Lemmings 1 and Oh No! More Lemmings. It's a significant step up from the originals, with focus on more obscure tricks and pixel-precise execution, making it perfect for NeoLemmix's super-fine control system. Many levels offer multiple possible solutions, which is great to see, whilst others can only be solved by piecing together a very specific set of tricks and methods that players may never have encountered before taking on this pack.

The tile sets are pretty good in this one. Lab is my favourite (I've remixed it for the Slush World levels in Lemminas II!) with its instantly-recognisable blue bricks and green slime. Circuit is another good one with simple, easy to work with straight-edged shapes and surfaces. Meanwhile, Cloud and Martian feel much like the spiritual successors of the Dirt and Crystal themes; with their more roughly-shaped terrain and jagged steel pieces, these levels are challenging enough to navigate before there's even a puzzle involved!

Full set of replays attached. I had fun playing this, and I look forward to taking on the rest of II, IV and VI at some point.
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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #295 on: January 16, 2023, 02:06:49 AM »
The downloads in the OP don't seem to be working...

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Re: Lemmings Plus Series
« Reply #296 on: January 16, 2023, 04:22:57 AM »
I tried a couple and they're fine; which one specifically are you having issue with?
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« Reply #297 on: January 16, 2023, 06:13:42 AM »
Both the pack and the solution replays for all except VI do not download. A new browser tab opens and closes, and then nothing happens. VI works, and other downloads from elsewhere on the site are working. Both my ad blocker and antivirus software are set to allow downloads from the forums.

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« Reply #298 on: January 22, 2023, 07:20:28 PM »
They work fine for me - must be something on your end.

You mention having to specifically set your software to allow downloads from the forums - do note that these downloads come from neolemmix.com, not lemmingsforums.net, if that helps. (However, Lemmings Plus VI is no exception to that...)
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« Reply #299 on: January 22, 2023, 07:50:24 PM »
I downloaded the packs from the NeoLemmix site, not this one, with no problem. However, yeah, in the past I do remember having trouble downloading some (but not all) of the solution replays from this site (with the same new browser tap opening and closing thing that WillLem mentioned).