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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #495 on: June 04, 2005, 06:31:03 PM »
Quote from: Isu  link=1089162351/480#493 date=1117886639
Not on top of my level list either, my levels that start with a 1 or 2 are above it.
I tried your level and I ran out of builders halfway through:-(. I s'pose when you think about it, you can only use 13 builders per section, It'll take some brainpower to figure.


Well, I figured there'd be other levels above it (????? is on the top of my list, 3M being second), but I meant that you'd not have to look too far down the list for it.

As for the level itself, each of the three sections requires a completely different solution. And you really don't have THAT many builders to waste. I think I can do it with one or two left, although I used them all when I passed it. I'm thinking this is probably a 4th set level. It's deceptively difficult.
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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #496 on: June 04, 2005, 07:55:43 PM »
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It's deceptively difficult.

Sorry for being totally off topic, but whenever I read the phrase "deceptively difficult", it always confuses me whether the deception is that it's easier than it looks or that it's harder than it looks...... :???: ;P

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« Reply #497 on: June 04, 2005, 11:33:29 PM »
I read it to mean that it's hard because it's deceptive... so that would be easier than it looks... when you know how (and there is something tricky that you might overlook involved).

But I don't know, either :P

I would say for it to be harder than it looks it would have to look pretty easy to begin with, and just not work out in the end (though I guess this is how it is with all the builders in a sense).

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #498 on: June 05, 2005, 12:23:14 AM »
Actually, if you look at the level, there's only a couple walls between the entrances and the exits. The obstacles don't LOOK that bad, but clearing the level requires quite a bit more thought than you'd expect for a seemingly "straight builder" level.

It's really not straight building. Sure, you get 40 builders, an you need to use most or all of them, but their limited use is part of the big puzzle to the level.
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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #499 on: June 05, 2005, 03:31:55 PM »
I just find the time limit intimidating more than anything else. 3:26? Shouldn't we be trying to encourage people to use the pause button less? (and yes, I know I've made some evil levels in my time...I still lose sleep over it)

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #500 on: June 06, 2005, 07:42:04 AM »
Not like we couldn't come up with a level with a time limit of 99:99 that still forces you to use the pause button......  ;P

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #501 on: June 07, 2005, 12:24:18 AM »
Well... yes, you do need to smash the pause button a lot in this one.

Anyone pass it yet?  :'(
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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #502 on: June 07, 2005, 09:13:40 AM »
I'm on a visit to Oxford for a few days (it's where I went to university and many of my old friends are finishing their exams) ... but I think I know the solution, I just didn't have time to try it out before I left. Want me to send you it?

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #503 on: June 07, 2005, 09:36:19 AM »
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Anyone pass it yet? &#A0;:'(

I don't have the time at the moment to really play the level, but I did open a second copy up in the level editor and done some sketchings on it.  From there I believe I have a solution but of course it needs to be tested.  Especially to make sure everything works under the tight time limit.

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #504 on: June 07, 2005, 04:31:20 PM »
If you want to send your ideas through PM, please do so: I want to make sure the one route I thought of is really the only possible route.
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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #505 on: June 07, 2005, 04:52:44 PM »
Well, it'll be a little hard to PM as guest  ;), but I can e-mail you nonetheless.

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #506 on: June 07, 2005, 05:41:20 PM »
Whoops, my bad.  I just realized there is only 1 bomber available in the level, not 3.

So back to the drawing board for me for now.

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #507 on: June 07, 2005, 09:06:48 PM »
I'll PM my solution.

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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #508 on: June 08, 2005, 02:01:02 AM »
Quote from: Ahribar  link=1089162351/495#507 date=1118178408
I'll PM my solution.


That solution is quite different than what I did to pass it, although it looks like it might work. I'd have to try it out.
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Re: Cheapo Level Pak topic
« Reply #509 on: June 15, 2005, 05:53:38 PM »
Yaay! I finally got around to uploading Style Trial. There are some Sunsoft-esque levels in there...

I'm off to work on my Sonic mod now, bye. :P