Maximum Percentage for Lemmings Levels?

[Dullstar]

This is going to be QUITE a wall of text, isn't it?

We're going to find the maximum percentage that can be saved on official levels!  Some of these records probably already exist, but the problem is, sometimes you have to hunt them down.  So here they are.  I will do my best to keep this list up to date.

If all levels in a category have been tested, to shorten the list, "All levels in this category solved" will be added, and the ones resulting in 100% will be removed from the list.

Oh, yes, and for fun in DOS, I'm covering them all, and updating the post as I go.
LEMMINGS
DOS VERSION RECORDS

FUN
Fun 3:  94% (Lose 3)
Fun 6:  96% (Lose 2)

Oh No!  More Lemmings!
DOS VERSION RECORDS

TAME
All levels in this category solved
All 100%!

[Fernito]

LemSteven once posted lemmings losing stats in the challenges thread. Here they are:

Fun 3:  Lose 3
Fun 6:  Lose 2
Fun 18:  Lose 5
Tricky 15:  Lose 3
Tricky 16:  Lose 4
Tricky 17:  Lose 2
Tricky 18:  Lose 1
Tricky 23:  Lose 1
Taxing 7:  Lose 1
Taxing 19:  Lose 5
Taxing 27:  Lose 3
Taxing 28:  Lose 10
Mayhem 5:  Lose 4
Mayhem 10:  Lose 2
Mayhem 19:  Lose 3
Mayhem 26:  Lose 4
Mayhem 29:  Lose 2

Total:  Lose 55

We only have to calculate the final percentages based on the number of lemmings of each level.

[LemSteven]

Those percentages would be as follows:

Fun 3:  94%
Fun 6:  96%
Fun 18:  92%
Tricky 15:  70%
Tricky 16:  92%
Tricky 17:  96%
Tricky 18:  90%
Tricky 23:  98%
Taxing 7:  98%
Taxing 19:  92%
Taxing 27:  96%
Taxing 28:  87%
Mayhem 5:  95%
Mayhem 10:  97%
Mayhem 19:  94%
Mayhem 26:  95%
Mayhem 29:  97%

And for ONML:
Crazy 3:  Lose 2 (96%)
Crazy 10:  Lose 1 (98%)
Crazy 11:  Lose 40 (50%)  *Lose 1 is possible with the nuke glitch, but it's still 50%
Crazy 14:  Lose 2 (96%)
Wild 5:  Lose 3 (96%)
Wild 13:  Lose 3 (96%)
Wild 15:  Lose 2 (96%)
Wild 18:  Lose 2 (97%)
Wicked 1:  Lose 1 (98%)
Wicked 4:  Lose 1 (98%)
Wicked 7:  Lose 4 (95%)
Wicked 8:  Lose 4 (92%)
Wicked 9:  Lose 1 (98%)
Wicked 10:  Lose 1 (98%)
Wicked 12:  Lose 1 (98%)
Wicked 15:  Lose 2 (96%)
Wicked 16:  Lose 1 (83%)
Havoc 10:  Lose 4 (80%)
Havoc 20:  Lose 7 (88%)

[Fernito]

@LemSteven: maybe off-topic, but I have been trying the no-bombers Taxing 27 challenge, and I finally made it, but I lost way more lemmings than you (I got 93%). The question is, how do you do?

PS: attached a replay in case you needed it to tell what I'm doing wrong.

[Proxima]

Oh, I know this one straight off without even watching the replay. Losing only three on that level requires taking a completely different route....

[Fernito]

Oh, really? Any hint please? 

[Clam]

The best possible score for the "no bombers" route is the same as for the old max-% solution - 77/80 or 96%. (edit: major screwup on my part, see below)

I posted all the records in the "Minimum skills with maximum % Challenge" thread, here.

[Fernito]

The best possible score for the "no bombers" route is the same as for the old max-% solution - 77/80 or 96%.

And I posted all the records in the "Minimum skills with maximum % Challenge" thread, here.

I wonder how you do that (didn't find any replay for Taxing 27 in the thread )

[Clam]

OH SHI-


I just realised that my solution wasn't a no-bombers run at all. It was a one minute solution, and I did use a bomber. If you don't use a bomber, then you have to build out from between the blockers, and the builder here can't be saved because it gets separated from the sliding group. This means the theoretical maximum without bombers is 76/80, not 77. (I think you'll find the blocker you used on the right in your solution isn't necessary.)

[Fernito]

Already knew that the rightmost blocker wasn't necessary. I just couldn't figure out how to get 77/80 using no bombers, but now I know that it isn't possible

[Minim]

How about we add Frost, Hail, Flurry and Blitz to the collection?

[namida]

And Xmas 91 and 92.

[LemSteven]

My 77/80 route to Taxing 27 uses a backroute of sorts, going left from the entrance and building up to the top platform by going around it.

One perfectly timed bomber lowers the starting platform as much as possible, one blocker turns the bridge, and one blocker/bomber holds in the crowd.  The right side is sealed off by stacking 3 bridges on top of one another.

[Proxima]

Does anyone have the statistics for the Genesis levels? I know those were posted in the old forum....

[geoo]

tseug apparently posted a list on the old forum in the Challenges thread.
The post is from 27 Nov 2005, so perhaps there have been improvements in the meantime.

Fun 3: 47/50
Fun 6: 48/50
Fun 18: 65/70

Tricky 15: 7/10
Tricky 16: 46/50
Tricky 17: 48/50
Tricky 18: 9/10
Tricky 21: 49/50
Tricky 23: 98/100

Taxing 13: 49/50
Taxing 14: 49/50
Taxing 17: 48/50
Taxing 19: 65/70
Taxing 25: 79/80

Mayhem 5: 76/80
Mayhem 14: 48/50
Mayhem 19: 47/50
Mayhem 29: 84/100

Present 2: 44/50
Present 16: 98/100

Sunsoft 6: 54/60
Sunsoft 22: 49/50
Sunsoft 24: 49/50
Sunsoft 27: 1/4

Total lost: 77

I'm just wondering about its completeness, as I don't see a way to get 100% on Present 7 on first glance (you only got a blocker there).

[Minim]

I think namida said that Tricky 23 can be done with only one lemming lost.

[Proxima]

Namida was talking about the DOS version. Even though it's the same level, gameplay mechanics on different version can affect the max % records. On the Genesis, ccexplore had a thorough look at it and concluded that lose 2 is the best possible.