I still don't like the Oh No ones though. That icicle one is pretty gruesome, and it certainly doesn't go well with elevator music!

Oh c'mon, elevator music? X_X It's not that bad.

I do agree though that something is lost in translation when they have to port the Amiga music to fit the limited sound hardware of PCs of the day.  I'll try to upload MP3s of what the music are really supposed to sound like (Amiga MOD version) someday in the near future.

Interesting, I'll need to try it out to see that it really works. &#A0;I've sort of try something somewhat similar, but it didn't work and I convinced myself that it couldn't work, but maybe it's a timing thing.

Ah, turns out it's a Cheapo glitch and not a timing thing that prevented what I was trying from working.  You see, it turns out thanks to Cheapo glitchiness, one of the moves you used only works if it's a walker doing it.  If you use a climber instead its position will be off by one pixel and ruins your solution.  I'll PM you about it now.

I haven't actually tried any of your levels yet, but I'm willing to take a shot at it......6 hours past now.

By the way, seems to me your proposed change above doesn't actually eliminate the backroute you were concerned about.

I've just now checked your actual fix for the level, so the above statement is longer true or relevant.

For now, I'm back from the Team17 forum, and they're talking about if Lemmings should have blood when killled by traps or not. Or maybe green blood?

Well, I don't have a strong preference either way.  Note though that in the original game, one of the traps (the rock squisher trap in the dirt style) does show some blood when killing a lemming, and it's red.

I don't think green blood is right.  Real-life lemmings are mammals after all, so their blood would be red just like ours.  There's nothing alien-y or monster-y about lemmings to warrant green blood, unless they have some concerns about parents complaining about graphic goriness (doubtful, I mean, it's Lemmings! not Doom 3!)

Hmm, new screenshots, new comments:

1) Yeah they murdered the old Pink style, but the new one isn't bad either.  It's actually nice how they re-imagine that style.  Ironic that they choose to give it a somewhat "Roman" look, I remembered how Tumbleweed was complaining that one of Hubbart's levels, "Remains of the Roman Empire" or something, should not have used the Pink Style because the Column Style was more Roman-like.  One complain:  the spinner trap in the Pink Style looks ugly!  (Though maybe it's just because of the stillness of a screenshot.)

Maybe the remake of the Pink Style is a blessing in disguise:  imagine the general clean-and-cutesiness of the Team17 graphics in hues of bright, vibrant pink?  That might be a bit much methinks.  :-/

(Oh, and the death animation of the spinner trap looks intriguing)

2) The Hell Exit:  well, it looks about the same as all the other exits.  I still think they could make the doorway part of the exit more interesting than just a black rectangle.  More generally, they definitely can use a little more creativity with the exits I think.  

3) "Let's Go":  eek!  That's horrible!  It's so, I don't know, tacky?  What's wrong with just a simple sound effect?  ::

In fact, although the "splat" etc. bothers me far less than that "Let's Go", it strikes me as pointlessly redundant to have both sound effects (I'd hope?) and onamatopoeia at the same time.  If it's a cartoonish effect they're trying to create, well I'm not convinced that it's working.  I hope they at least have an option to turn off the onamatopoeia.

4) 666:  Sorry, the original graphics of the 666 kicks the new one to high noon.  In the original 666 you don't notice on first impression the separate terrain pieces that comprises the "6"s, they blend together fairly well into one whole "6".  Here, you can very distinctly see the "6" as a pile of terrain pieces (giant chunks of rock basically) thrown together.  Blergh!

Only partially figured out parts of sections #3 and #4 so far:

main.dat section 3:
 Lemmmings holding signs
   [0x9488]  F1 sign, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
   [0xA2D4]  F2 sign, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
   [0xB120]  F3 sign*, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
   [0xBF6C]  Difficulty Selection sign**, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
   [0xCDB8]  Exit to DOS sign, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
   [0xDC04]  F4 sign, 1 frame, 120x61, 4 bpp
*with the music/fx set to blank
**with the difficulty set to FUN
This is the end of section 3, contains the "Lemmings holding signs" graphics you see on the main menu screen.

main.dat section 4:
 purple text
    [0x69B0] "!", 1 frame, 16x16, 3bpp
    ...
 (contains the ASCII characters, in order, from '!' to "~")

This is end of section 4, contains all the purple text characters you see throughout the game.