It's now possible to update all water objects in an entire pack using the SLX QuickMod Tool - choose "Update Water Objects" and all water objects will be automatically converted to their SuperLemmix counterparts.

Note: this only works for orig and ohno styles; levels using custom styles will need to be updated manually using the instructions here.

Additionally, it's now also possible to use the SLX QuickMod tool to mass convert:

All Stoners to Freezers
All Bombers to Timebombers (and vice versa)

My point wasnt about how close to L2 it is, rather the fact that the skill could and likely would be used for a secondary purpose thats completely not terrain removal. It seems a bit inconsistent to me but those are just my two cents.

This is one of those "depends on the layout of the level" arguments. Any skill can be used for its non-primary purpose, and in fact many skills are used that way in order to create difficulty and more interesting interactions (e.g. using a Builder to turn a lemming, using a Basher to cancel a Builder) - the point being that it depends on the level designer, not the skill itself.

With that said, I agree that skills should have a single basic action and not do multiple things, ideally. We all seem to agree, though, that the Propeller should arrive at the top of the tunnel. So, unless we arbitrarily nerf it by having it always fall, it will have the secondary benefit of height gain. Is this acceptable?

Yes, the Propelling lem will always arrive at the top of a successfully created tunnel.

The question now seems to be: what about when the tunnel isn't finished due to the lem hitting a steel block, or the top of the level (i.e. the situations in this image that result in transition to "faller")? Should the lem fall (potentially fatal), or propel safely back down?

I'm currently about 50/50 on it, either would be fine code-side.

Reported by Paiy on Discord.

This bug was introduced by allowing Jumpers to be assigned to Swimmers. The attached level and replay show the bug; repeatedly assigning Jumpers to a Swimmer whilst the water overlaps terrain allows the lemming to clip-Jump through the terrain.

This is because lems are first raised by 1px when jumping from water; we need to make sure that no terrain occupies that pixel.

Fixed in Commit 45325d65f.

Please can someone tell me if Lemmings 2: The Tribes and Lemmings 3 have been ported/converted to work in SuperLemminiToo?

Hi Tygerboi, welcome to the Forums and thanks for your enquiry and kind words.

Unfortunately, neither L2 nor L3 has been fully ported to any of the modern clones yet. However, NeoLemmix and SuperLemmix both feature the style sets, sprites and other assets from these games, and fan-made levels have been created using them.

Both engines also feature the Jumper, Stacker, Shimmier, Slider, Swimmer, Platformer, Fencer and Laserer skills which are all very close to their L2 counterparts. Furthermore, SuperLemmix has also introduced the Ballooner, Ladderer, Spearer and Grenader, which are reminiscent of various other L2 skills.

Whilst both engines include a number of player assist tools (replays, framestepping, skill shadows, etc), SuperLemmix also has a "Classic Mode" which can be activated at any time to return to the more traditional gameplay style if that's what you prefer. As someone who used to use the Lemmini engines extensively (and as SuperLemmix dev!) I would strongly recommend this to you as a more fully-featured and regularly developed engine than the Lemmini engines, which haven't been updated in a long time and are unlikely to be anytime in the near future.

Good luck, and let us know if you need any assistance!

- WL

Reported by Paiy on Discord.

Because Jumpers now bounce from walls rather than falling, it's possible for the following bug to arise:



This is due to the fact that the wall check is repeatedly returning true, so the lemming continues to turn around. The fix I've applied is that the Jumper now has a "bounce allowance" of 3. Once this allowance is reached, the next time the Jumper meets a wall they fall; so, the end result is that they are facing the opposite direction to the one they were facing initally:



This has been implemented in Commit 6200e4307. A hotfix will be released shortly.

Please build NL with this for me

Here you go.

There's a known bug in 2.7 where Blockers are always drawn to the lower layer, even when not in water. This is now fixed (Commit 646ae1c03); I'll get a hotfix released in due course.