Inverse Lemmings is a small-ish remix pack featuring 40 levels from the original game with their maps inverted; they are in fact not only upside down, but also back-to-front as well.

As with all remix packs, I've done my best to only keep the levels which play well into the concept; thankfully, a lot of these have ended up presenting plenty of interesting challenges.

I've aimed for a "fewer possible solutions" approach this time around, meaning that the pack is generally a step up in difficulty from my usual output, but should still be more than do-able for the average player with a bit of effort, a free evening and a few beers (or whatever you fancy).

So go ahead and enjoy the classic levels as you've never seen them before (unless you've played with your laptop upside down...)

What's in the attachment:

Level pack
Full set of solution replays
willlem_special style with custom tiles required for the majority of the levels
Custom menu graphics
Custom skill panel graphics
Amiga Lemmings music

To install, simply unzip the folder directly to your NeoLemmix directory.

I think it would be sufficient to allow packs to provide a theme.nxmi that overrides anything provided by the theme.nxmi specified by the level. This would allow a pack to specify a set of lemming sprites and, if this suggestion passes, custom sounds, without needing variant themes for every single combination of one-way-wall colors and custom lemming/sounds the pack wants to use.

Good idea.

I'm currently intermittently working on an update to the NeoLemmix menu graphics which zanzindorf, Lana and I are contributing to. For now, here's a version of the NeoLemmix logo without the lemmings.



To install, place it in NeoLemmix/gfx/menu and choose replace.

It does not matter how many people would enjoy content that uses this feature if there isn't much content that uses it. The question being asked is if people would use it in their content.

I see what you mean, and of course it comes down to whatever factors are most important to you as the creator of NeoLemmix. However, let's say for example that only one user creates one pack using this feature. It could be that every NeoLemmix player downloads and enjoys that one pack. The number of people that would enjoy the feature in other people's work is, therefore, a worthwhile factor as well as the number of people that would use it.

The converse of this is that everybody could create packs using this feature, and then have 0 downloads of their content because nobody is interested in playing packs which use it.

Granted, both of the scenarios that I've outlined here are extremes that are both very unlikely, but the point is to illustrate that end-user opinion can be just as important as creator opinion, particularly when it's a feature that not many people are likely to use in their own content.

Having said this, it seems that there are in fact a healthy enough number of people who would like to use this feature in their content anyway, which I have to say comes as a pleasant surprise!

Similarly, I'm worried that if custom sounds are tied to the theme.nxmi, this will create the situation where level authors who don't want the custom sounds (or don't want those particular custom sounds) will have to use the theme of another style -- again, messing up one-way arrow colours etc.

I can certainly see how that would be an issue.

To be fair, if the end result of this suggestion is that the feature is implemented as a "per-pack" feature only, that would be more than good enough.

I just think that sounds, similar to background colours/sprites/mask colours/etc, are more of a 'theme' thing than a 'level pack' thing. I can see your point that tying it to the theme means that other content creators who don't want those particular sounds have an extra step to take if they want to use that theme in their content. But, it could easily be argued that if a creator wants to use a particular theme, it's because they like all of the particular features of that theme.

As far as end-users are concerned - again, I can understand that if someone doesn't like a theme that a creator has used, they too would have to modify it. But, as a counterpoint to what you've said:

Surely it's better for an end-user to only have to modify a theme.nxmi just the once, and then whenever they download content using that theme, it's already tailored to their preferences. If the feature was implemented 'per-pack', the user would have to modify each and every pack individually.

So, it's swings and roundabouts really. Neither option is necessarily better or worse than the other, but it still seems to me that tying it to theme makes more sense and is potentially easier for everyone.

I think it's too confusing for new players, who will just see an exit.

There is no way to prove or disprove this.

A clear visual distinction makes it much clearer that it's a new type of object; and since the distinction from exits would be specifically that they work in mid-air, the grounded "building" graphic obscures that.

True; I agree to some extent. However, I think limiting the object in this way weakens the idea somewhat, pushing it more towards "let's just use Portals and regular exits to simulate the desired behaviour".

After all, someone jumping past the front door of a building does not typically find themselves inside!

What about someone jumping into the door, as opposed to past it? The trigger area is supposed to be a point at which the object is interacted with, not traversed.

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In light of namida's response, it seems that making Vortexes lockable could be the only justification for keeping the idea afloat.

Thoughts?

Just thought I'd compile here some of the ideas I've suggested for NeoLemmix. This is purely so I can keep track of what I've suggested so far, what has been accepted/rejected, and as an index for the suggestion topics themselves.

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Suggestions That Have Already Been Approved:

[PLAYER] Hi-res mode - Topic 1 - Topic 2
[PLAYER] New menu design
[PLAYER] Allow different background for menu/preview screens
[PLAYER] Swimmer exit transition from ceiling water
[PLAYER] Display XX/YY for Max Saved records
[PLAYER] Toggle skill shadows on/off
[PLAYER] Show player records in F2 menu
[PLAYER] An extra rosette for "General Records" as well as "My Records"
[PLAYER] Toggle panel view to show how many skills you've used so far

[EDITOR] "Open With"/File association between .nxlv and Editor
[EDITOR] Paste-in-Place

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Suggestions That Have Already Been Rejected/Otherwise Resolved:

[PLAYER] 2-Player mode
[PLAYER] Fast-backwards - SuperLemmix has this feature (i.e. Rewind)
[PLAYER] Customisable FF speeds - SuperLemmix has FF and Turbo FF
[PLAYER] Notify user if a pack recommends playing in hi-res
[PLAYER] "Use every skill" Talisman
[PLAYER] Talisman ideas - SuperLemmix has Talismans for "Classic Mode" and "No Pause", which between them account for most of the ideas listed in the topic
[PLAYER] Fully self-contained level packs
[PLAYER] Object Suggestion: Vortex
[PLAYER] Level Pack Downloader
[PLAYER] Nudge minimap left & right using hotkeys
[PLAYER] Allow theme.nxmi to specify custom sounds
[PLAYER] Assign hotkeys to panel buttons (in addition to skills) - SuperLemmix has this feature
[PLAYER] Allow file association between .nxrp and NeoLemmix Player - SuperLemmix has this feature
[PLAYER] Sound for Release Rate increase/decrease - SuperLemmix has this feature
[PLAYER] Indicate pre-assigned skills in F2 menu and preview screen
[PLAYER] Continual automatic replay playback
[PLAYER] Apply recolouring scheme to trap animations
[PLAYER] Allow next/previous skill command to rotate infinitely - SuperLemmix has this feature (and, so does NeoLemmix, actually!)

[EDITOR] Customisable Hotkeys
[EDITOR] Allow scrolling via touchpad gestures and/or mouse wheel - SuperLemmix Editor has this feature (Ctrl + Wheel to scroll horizontally, Alt + Wheel to scroll vertically)
[EDITOR] Wider dropdown/better UI for style selection - SuperLemmix Editor has this feature
[EDITOR] Resize levels upwards rather than downwards when changing height
[EDITOR] Adjust background image brightness

Possible alternative: Allowing packs, rather than styles, to do this.

When I originally started this topic, it was to suggest that packs could do this.

I then realised that it may make more sense to link the custom sounds to a theme (such as Lemminas, Millas, or any other custom sprite set which may require their own sounds). That way, any levels or packs created using these sprites/themes would have the correct sounds.

Doing it by pack, on the other hand, means having to make sure the correct sounds are included with every release, which seems a bit more cumbersome. That said, it would certainly be a good enough way to do it, if it was the only way.