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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 10:53:03 PM »
It was disabled, but it wasn't meant to be. :P Fixed now.

The reason for this is that before importing any old forum data (or even applying minor fixes usually) I back up the database, so that if it goes wrong (which it often does on a first attempt), I can simply jump back to the previous state rather than having to manually undo the damage. So, to avoid loss of posts, I also disable posting before the backup is taken. In this case, I must've forgotten to re-enable it.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 01:10:26 PM »
If you had already registered an account on the new one, your old account would've been skipped during the import if the username and/or the email address were the same. This only affects a small handful of users, but if you don't see your name on the list it may also be because you already registered an account on the new forum.
I'm one of the ones affected by this, as I'd already registered on the new forum quite early on in case this one fell over. I assume this won't present a problem for linking my posts from here to my account there, once the posts are moved over?

Nope, it wont' present any problem at all. The only disadvantage you may have is that you'll have to manually re-add any profile info you want to carry over (such as signatures, contact info in your profile, etc).


So, my task over the next few days is to get together an app that can parse this boards. I'm already mostly done with the planning stage, but still need to do the actual coding. Of course, I won't actually add the posts until the deadline, but needless to say I'll be doing a few test runs (basically, generating the data for importing, just without actually doing the final import to bring it live) beforehand - one reason for choosing new years' is this should give me plenty of time to do it.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:23:36 PM »
Latest update; we now have the Lemmings-y emoticons on the new board. :) That's all from me for today, will continue tomorrow.

At this point, I'm suggesting we set a move-over date, and once this has passed we disable posting (but not viewing - I need to be able to grab a content dump as up-to-date as possible of course xD) on this board. Between the closing date here and the posts being transferred (it may take a few hours - ideally I'll have everything ready and working by then so the only thing left to do is actually run the import), you can always reply to existing topics here on the new board by creating a new topic there, and I can merge them once the posts from here are transferred over. My suggestion would be new year's day - that way most of the users will be too busy to need to post much here anyway - but of course this is something we all need to decide on rather than one of us saying "this is the date, and that's final", so please give your input. :)

Once the posts are transferred, we can start on linking them to actual accounts (instead of as guest posts).

Also - when this happens, we'll need to update the News thing at the top of the board to reflect this. I believe geoo (or Mr K) should be able to do this from the admin panel, unless that's broken at some point.

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Site Discussion / Re: Welcome to the new Lemmings Forums... yet again.
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:08:06 PM »
So, I finally got around to adding the current Lemmings emoticons. Enjoy! :)

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 11:25:25 AM »
PMs from the IsaMedia board *should* have been imported. I say "should" because I myself didn't have any from this time so can't verify for sure that it worked correctly; if anyone who *did* have some could let me know if they worked, that'd be great.

Note that they'll only have been imported if:
1. You have an account on the new forum. In other words, either a) you registered manually, or b) you had an account on here, with at least 1 post, at the time of the January backup.
2. Your username and/or email address is the same on the new forum (it will have been imported from what it is on *this* forum (or was at the time of the January backup, to be more precise) if your acccount was imported as described above) as it was on the IsaMedia forum.
3. In the case of sent messages, most likely they'll only have been imported if the recipient also met the above criteria.

Additionally, an order fix has been applied to the PMs similarly to how it was with the regular posts.

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Site Discussion / Re: Private Messages
« on: December 23, 2014, 11:20:50 AM »
IsaMedia PMs have also been imported (subject to the same rules as above, except for the time limit)... in theory. I don't have any myself from this time so I can't check if it worked 100%, so if anyone who does have some can let me know if they appeared fine, that'd be great. :)


Please also note: Sent PMs will not appear if the recipient's PMs couldn't be recovered for one of the above reasons, I think. I could be wrong on this though.

Also, IsaMedia PMs may be incorrectly marked as unread; their read/unread status didn't seem to be in the backup I had so I'm not sure what the exact result will be. This is a minor detail though, so it shouldn't matter.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 09:58:36 AM »
[08:22] <SimonN> namida42: incoming messages up to early 2014 are all there, thanks. Outgoing messages are empty still
[08:22] * PhilM has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[08:24] <namida42> i didnt attempt to do anything on the sent side, didnt really cross my mind
[08:24] <namida42> i can probably patch it up though
[08:25] <SimonN> hnn :)
[08:27] <namida42> remind me a bit later on, kinda had enough of it for now xD
[08:27] <SimonN> okay, will make a post to the forum


-- Simon

Simon already knows this due to being a guinea pig for checking if it works :P but for everyone who isn't currently on #lix; this is now done.

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Site Discussion / Private Messages
« on: December 23, 2014, 06:52:51 AM »
What could be recovered of old private messages has been. The recoverable ones were:

> Up to Thu, 09 Jan 2014 18:25:56 (UTC) was the most recent private message that was recoverable
> Only messages to those who have an account here could be recovered. However, this DOES include those who's accounts were imported from the old forum. (IE: Those who had an account and at least one post at the time of the backup.)
> "Threaded" features (that track which PMs are a reply to which other ones) are most likely broken. But the contents of the messages themself will be there.
> For received messages, they could only be imported if your username or email address (or both) was the same on here as it was at the time of the January backup on the old forum.
> For sent messages, as well as the above criteria, the recipient would probably need to meet the above criteria too.
> If you deleted a message more recently than the January backup, it would reappear as (obviously) it's deletion would not be logged in the backup I have. If you deleted it *before* the January backup though, it should stay deleted.

If you think any are missing, let me know. Ones more recent than this simply cannot with the tools we currently have available, sorry. You'll need to manually back them up; if you want them on the boards here, one option is to PM them to yourself.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 06:45:10 AM »
All avaialable PMs from the January backup have been imported (provided the receiving account was imported too (or already registered) - doesn't matter whether or not the sending account was).

Please do check that none are missing just in case. And there likely won't be any way to transfer newer ones, so make sure you back those up somehow.

EDIT: Does anyone think the IsaMedia PMs should be restored too? I could probably restore these too, although more will probably be missing due to username/email changes (as I'm using these to match accounts from the backups to those on the new forum - only one has to match, not both).

At this stage, pretty much all that's left that's possible (aside from the IsaMedia PMs if anyone thinks it's worth bothering - it shouldn't be too much effort, as long as they're in the backup I have - haven't checked if they are) is the posts (which unlike LW and IsaMedia, will include attachments :D ) from here. I don't want to do them while people are still posting here though, for the reasons I've mentioned before. So... what to do from here?


(By the way, I probably won't be doing much on Christmas Day itself. But the days before and after should be perfectly fine.)

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 04:26:36 AM »
All user accounts have been imported. Note that after importing a second copy of my old account, I wasn't able to log in (it said the wrong password) so you may need to reset your passwords via the lost password feature. If anyone doesn't have access to their old email address anymore, let me (or any other admins on the new board, once some are added - not sure if moderators are able to help with this) know and I can update your email address, or if all else fails, set you a temporary password which you can use to log in and change it to one of your choosing.

Check this list to see if your username has been imported. If it hasn't, it's because you either registered after the January database backup, or you had zero posts at this time; if this is the case, you'll have to register a new account. If you had already registered an account on the new one, your old account would've been skipped during the import if the username and/or the email address were the same. This only affects a small handful of users, but if you don't see your name on the list it may also be because you already registered an account on the new forum. I didn't compare IP addresses or other profile information to check for duplicates, so if you do have a duplicate account, please let me know so I can merge them or delete one.

Most profile information was also imported along with the accounts themself. However, some things (such as mod/admin status, post count) weren't.

I'll look into importing the old private messages soon. :) This way, you'll only need to back up (if we can't find a way around this) ones received since the backup.

EDIT: Working on it now! :)

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 03:33:56 AM »
Not even going to consider doing that, sorry. However, if PMs can be viewed from the admin panel, *that* would be an option maybe... don't think they can, though.

Anyway, I'm going to attempt to import all existing user registrations (EDIT: not including those who had zero posts at this time) from the old backup. I'll let you know soon whether or not it was successful.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 03:19:19 AM »
It'd be the PM recipients who'd need to run that, not me. :p

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:36:26 AM »
Im using WinHTTrack to grab the content as HTML files and download attachments, and custom-written QB64 code to parse it. I havent written a parser for these forums yet, but thats the plan, and its what I did for the old sites.

The actual importing to the database is pure SQL (geneeated by the QB64 code), and the order fix is a PHP/SQL hybrid as I wasnt able to get it working in pure SQL.

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Site Discussion / Re: Server Move - Discussion and Status
« on: December 23, 2014, 12:28:16 AM »
ccexplore: I could always just load users that havent already registered.

The problem with getting PMs (and for that matter the staff board) is an inability to do it with a logged in account. Though it is possible to log in, one of the first things the app does is grab a copy of the log out page, and you can guess the results....

I might be able to do that with fixing post links, now that you mention it. I can at least look into it.

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Other Projects / Dedicated Boards
« on: December 22, 2014, 12:34:35 AM »
If you would like a dedicated board for your project (such as currently exist for Lix, NeoLemmix and SuperLemmini), please request it in this topic. You will have moderator access on the board for your project *only* (unless you're already a global moderator, of course); within reason you can request that specific other users get it for your board too.

The following requirements exist for getting a dedicated board:
- The project must be released in some form, and not just a demo. It doesn't have to be a final version, but it does have to exist.
- Dedicated boards are not available for projects which are simply level packs. Yes, even Lemmings Plus doesn't get one.
- Obviously, the project must be Lemmings-related. Replacing the lemmings with another creature is fine, of course.
- The project doesn't nessecerially need to be a Lemmings / IRS engine of some kind. For example, a level editor may qualify if its sole (or primary) purpose is Lemmings levels.
- More than one project can share a dedicated board if they're related; for example, the NeoLemmix player and the NeoLemmix Editor.
- Absolutely in no case will a dedicated board be made for a project that isn't free. (I mean free-as-in-beer here; it doesn't have to be open-source.) Accepting donations or ad-supported still counts as "free", but the free-to-play model does not. Inbetween cases will be judged on a case-by-case basis; for example, an otherwise-free ad-supported project with an option to pay to remove ads will most likely be fine, but a game where only single-player is free yet the focus is clearly on multiplayer will most likely not get a dedicated board here.

(To avoid doubt - you are allowed to create topics on the "Other Projects" board about projects that don't meet the requirements for a dedicated board.)

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