With regards to the 98% on Tricky 23 suggestion - this is possible on NeoLemmix after all. But only if you go by the letter, not the spirit, of the challenge. 98% on this level in traditional Lemmix is lose-1, due to the level having 80 lemmings there. The NeoLemmix version, due to being based off the Amiga version of the game, has 100 lemmings, so 98% is lose-2 - this is possible. So far, lose-1 doesn't seem to be possible on this level under NeoLemmix.

There might still be room for improvement though - using the exact solution used for 98% under traditional (if I'm remembering it correctly) only got 94%, but some tweaks to it were able to bring it up to 98%. So squeezing out an extra 1% might be doable. I'll keep trying and see what I can do.

Just over a day and a half left now, so come on and get those entries in!

By the way, a slight change to how levels will be distributed for phase 2: Rather than randomly choosing whether (or not) to reassign the format, I'm simply going to distribute all levels for Phase 2 in both formats, and entrants can choose which one they want to work with.

ccexplore recently tested (for a short time) a modification that changes "Recent posts" to "Recently updated topics". Essentially, the difference between this and how it is now would be that each topic can only appear once on the list, so multiple posts in the same topic won't "flood" the list.

How do people feel about having this?

There's no means of converting Lemmini styles to NeoLemmix at the moment (other than doing it manually), so that could be problematic. Of course, with the NeoLemmix graphic set format documented, and LemSet being open source, there's nothing to stop anyone who feels confident with doing some coding from making a tool to convert them. (Yeah, I know, I'll probably end up making the tool eventually. xD)


Simply throwing the levels in as-is somewhat defeats the purpose of using NeoLemmix; at the very least they should be modified for accurate steel, cutting out empty space, etc. While I might be okay with merely including levels from such people, I definitely think I draw the line at modifying them. It may take longer to get the pack done this way, but I think it's a bit more ethical too. And besides, the more original content, the better; and if that doesn't happen, then at least the more intended-for-NeoLemmix content, the better. At the very least, at least levels should have blank space removed (by using the resizing / shifting the level), and all skills with zero count removed.

Yep, Sega style is fine. Beyond the unusual colour scheme (which could also be said about Psychedelic and maybe even Circuit styles), it doesn't really stand out any more than any other specific style does, so I don't think it'll look too out-of-place.

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One thing I'm wondering about is training levels. Should we have some kind of training levels in this? Perhaps a dedicated rank for them, covering not just the new skills, but also the new types of objects?


Also, thanks to a batch-submission from DynaLem, we now have 10 levels total (including my new one posted above). I'm willing to bet the current contest will result in at least one or two more potential submissions too. 11 if you count "A Little Breather" (from older versions of LPII); I didn't think of that at first because I haven't extracted it from the old data files and put it into my "collection of potential levels" folder yet. That one aside, you're probably only going to see completely-new levels from me in this (and if this project doesn't go anywhere, I'll either distribute them as a NeoCustLemmix pack, or include them in a new project).

Got one more submission, from DynaLem. "The GAURDIAN!" from his new level pack.

That aside, I also made another level. Even though I haven't been able to find any, I have a strong suspicion there's some backroutes hiding in this one; intended solution should be approximately the same difficulty-wise as (or maybe a little bit harder than) "The Winning Edge". This one's also a bit more "NeoLemmix-y"; it has vertical scrolling and uses Platformers.

That's 6 submissions so far. 1 Fire, 1 Brick, 1 Rock, 2 Tree and 1 Psychedelic.

Remember, anyone is welcome to submit levels! And if you don't agree with one of the rules, discuss it! In particular, I'm thinking of loosening up the "no levels from big packs" to simply "no levels from big Lemmix/NeoLemmix packs" (ie: allowing converted levels from big Lemmini packs; of course it goes without saying that it has to be your levels (or with the author's permission) that you submit). Of course in this case, you're encouraged to modify them to make use of NeoLemmix features, but it isn't essential for every level.

Do you mean as in the downloads are working, or they aren't working with the conversion tools? If it's the latter, you'll need to discuss it with Essman if the issues are with the Cheapo Style Extractor, but let me know ASAP if there's issues on the LemSet side of things.

The standard ones and a few extras come with Cheapo; the rest I'm not entirely sure where they can be found these days.