Finally, not the place for it, but I think you would like Armani's Xmas 2021 pack as well. As I was one of the pre-testers, I can definitely recommend it. It was a pack that I recommended to Swerdis to play through, which he did and was able to solve all of it from several months ago It isn't anywhere near as hard like Uncharted, but it's still quite tough in many places and is definitely of excellent quality, after taking my suggestions onboard to make some levels better in terms of execution, for example It's also a lot shorter, at 31 levels, but again it's no complete pushover. Maybe it'll be better for the end of the year, for the holidays, but well, no one says you can't play a Christmas pack at any other time of the year

It's on the list, but first a breather, then the current contest levels and after that I will give it a shot.

Planning and testing would be my tipp:

Start avoiding them starting in the initial level creation phase.

- Try to envision how ths skills you provide can accidentally open other routes and test that out yourself. If backroutes occur fix it or even change your initial level plan/layout. Sometimes a thing just is not possible without making an unwanted thing possible and changing up the level becomes the better option.
- Some skills tend to open more backroutes than other (stoners, jumpers,...). try to be very careful with those and think about alternative routes they could open up and also that you can maybe include a more restrictive skill instead in a pinch.
- Closing in on the final level try to intentionally solve the level in a different way and bash your head against it a few times. Your own solving skills can help you find quite a few backroutes and I had many instances where I broke my own stuff multiple times and came up with fixes before public testing/release.

In general do not tunnel vision on your intended solution and focus on alternative routes when testing!

Of course backroutes are inevitable in the end and there is no way on earth you will catch everything!

This topic has been moved to Engine Bugs / Suggestions.

https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=6439.0

LOTY 2022 has finally ended and the winners are (as we got a tie):

Armani's "Insert Coin, Choose Lemming"

and

IchoTolot's "Oil Processing Plant"

Congratulations to Armani and myself I assume ! I will contact you soon regarding the price of 10 USD.


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Third place goes to: IchoTolot's "May The Guides Bless My Journey!"

See you soon in LOTY 2023!

I think for this behavior "level possibilities/cases" can mostly be left out as it is only a turn and we got tons of way to achieve that already.

So I would go purely by "does this behavior make sense for players" and "does it make sense in terms of engine logic".

From my logic and expectation, even after trying out the exp versions, a "skill remover" removes the skill - and therefore the ability even if it is currently active - and should not do any more extra stuff like a turnaround.

Sliders and climbers are facing the wall and therefore should still face the wall after the ability got removed. Also, for simplicity sake here a turnaround like after the climber hitting its head is not needed as he would not climb it again at the bottom.

For the lovers of  "level possibilities/cases" I would still got this:
Maybe there is a hole at the bottom after the climb now and he gets to walk into a new tunnel.
It would also prevent sliders from sliding into a hole as the lemming is now falling on the outside again.

Next round is up!

Group 1

Round 1

Armani's "Yuna's Room" (2 votes)
Armani's "Insert Coin, Choose Lemming" (4 votes)
IchoTolot's "May The Guides Bless My Journey!" (3 votes)
IchoTolot's "Oil Processing Plant" (5 votes)
IchoTolot's "Starlight Pinball Zone" (1 vote)
kaywhyn's "Steeling the Inevitable Victory" (2 votes)
92Dexter11's "Cause and Infect" (2 votes)

Round 2

Armani's "Insert Coin, Choose Lemming" (7 votes)
IchoTolot's "May The Guides Bless My Journey!" (5 votes)
IchoTolot's "Oil Processing Plant" (6 votes)

Finals

Armani's "Insert Coin, Choose Lemming" (6 votes)
IchoTolot's "Oil Processing Plant" (6 votes)

I already stated my opinion here, although it is not a hard stance.
I just simply would say a skill remover should only remove the skill and do not add any additional things like a turnaround. And we would have no point for a turn as no head is being hit here.
I can see the other way working out as well.