I had the playstation version. It's not quite as demented but I needed to spend some time getting them set up and getting used to them. I downloaded the dos version from the link in your signature, it's a bit tougher to get used to tbh. But not entirely unintuitive.

got the talismans

It was ABCB when I played it, is what I mean

So overall it's a good job, thanks for the several hours of nostalgic fun over the last couple of days. Turns out the program works well in Wine. It took some getting used to instant bombers, of course, and to the reduced number of lemmings in most levels. And it's really nice to be able to see where your skills are going to end up, with those projection thingies. And rewind of course - there's a lot of levels like Save Me where I wouldn't have the patience to restart the level if I messed up the pixel-perfect timing. I'm getting too old for that shiz.

I can't quite get used to the builder physics, though. I expect a builder not to turn around when they hit their 'chest' - only if they hit their head or their feet. I'd noticed it before that, but this really screwed me up on Lemmings' Ark, where I was trying to build up into a miner tunnel from a basher tunnel. I watched a couple of videos from the Genesis version which showed that you could definitely do this. I had to watch another video that actually used NeoLemmix to realize that you can make the basher stop if you get the height of the tunnel exactly right. Builders also caused me trouble on "Out away from the tune" (the SING SING SING level)

Anyway, I have three talismans that i haven't completed yet, any help would be appreciated~ They are Lemtris - I think you have to mine down a bridge but I haven't constructed a solution; Come On Over to my Place - I can't work out how to get a builder going left and turn it around again, but I'm suspecting that's not it nvm i just worked it out; and I am AT - which... i have absolutely no idea.

The other is The Great Lemming Caper - I already have the solution memorized long ago, so this felt very out of place in the final category, and the talisman is "don't use blockers". But what is the solution WITH blockers? I think I found a possibility but I don't know what was intended.

I also found the last category a little strange in general because there are a lot of Genesis levels which have very little actual terrain - a lot are like little mazes made out of strings and poles. Partly because I'm not as familiar with them, it had a bit of a different vibe. The sega level also stands out as too easy. I think a couple more builder-focused levels might be OK, too, if only to train newbies at how many bridges you'll need - I know ppl here don't like them though. But generally you've got a better progression than the originals.

I also kind of like how you've taken out some of the backroutes, but I would note that I don't think "If at first you don't succeed" had water in it - like I'm fairly sure you should be able to get across the gap there with three bridges, but with the water it takes four. The final level "Fall and no life part two" has one too few miners compared to the original, assuming that's the same deal?

BTW i replaced the onml music with the ones from the mac version, because for some reason although the amiga lemmings music is the same as the mac, the onml music is remixed and i like the mac versions much better. Can upload a zip if anyone wants them.

Quote from: finlay on September 07, 2020, 04:07:15 PM

already found levels i didn't know about - the "Amiga Budget" levels. I've added them on the replacement/bonus levels tab. I used data from the lemmings fandom wiki but not entirely sure because some of the data was missing for Mayhem 22.

There's also another unique Amiga version, the "Amiga Bookclub" version which has different levels than usual in the positions Tricky 21 ("Through The Graveyard") and Taxing 20 ("Something Weighing On Your Mind?"). Neither are particularly interesting levels per se, but they're still two more official levels.

There's also a couple from demos - "The Apple Computer Level" (a special graphics level that literally solves itself) from a Mac demo, and "One Way To Freedom" (an actual proper level) from an Amiga demo. And depending on which version of Holiday Lemmings you've played, there's also "Vacation In Gemland" or whatever level was in that place (I forget the title) in the Amiga version.

Are you able to suggest edits on google docs directly? (or do you know how i can change the settings to allow you to?) I've found the info for the two "book club" levels, but it might be easier if you know the skills and so on to just suggest them.

I think I've played the apple computer demo you mentioned. I wasn't too impressed lol

Bearing in mind that I don't remember every individual colour, they're usually for "unusual" or "noteworthy" values. Things like 100% goal but also <50% goal are highlighted. In the case of skills, I actually highlighted n=0 on excel so that it would stand out easier, but this didn't transfer to google. I think what are highlighted are 10<n<20 and n>20. The actual colours don't matter, for the automatic ones. But red/pink usually means an odd/inexplicable change between platforms and the exclusive levels on e.g. Genesis are highlighted in blue.

while my attention is pointed at Lemmings, I'd like to just upload this spreadsheet that I made with data about all the levels

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E0doEFoZh52rQ5McHEFA7cgeYv6J5skHNMr-WczVLZc/edit?usp=sharing

I uploaded this when I was last active on the forum in 2011 or something, as an xls file on Dropbox, so I guess google doc wasn't active at the time? Anyway, please let me know if there are any glaring mistakes or other port/games/information you'd like to add. (I don't really know well how google doc works - maybe you can suggest an edit or comment on the file directly?)

hope you find it useful!

Hello! I should remember about this place more! I came back here last year, and I think I was gonna transcribe the lemmings game books onto the computer. I didn't get that far though because my computer broke in September. I've got another one temporarily, though, and the one I had was fixed, but it's broken again... Oops. We'll see if I can't do it someday...