Yeah the Lose X numbers are based on the total lems including cloned ones.

I've just checked the Mayhem 10 EU leaderboards and fifth place has a time of 1:16.14 so they are seperate for each region.

I do wonder if there's a steel glitch, especially with Mayhem 5. I'm 11th but 5th is five minutes faster and even if I maxed my solution it would be nowhere near that time.

Frevett, if you just want 100% on Mayhem 10 then ignore the leaderboards for now. There's a slower but much easier method. Mayhem 4 is interesting and uses some ideas that are quite obscure. No glitches, but you need to be creative with the skills.

Thanks for that. I remember having an idea for Taxing 9 but I couldn't get it to work and assumed it wasn't possible since as you say no-one had done it at the time. I'll have to have another go.

When the trophy patch was announced it was implied that there would be DLC, but I've not seen anything since. The patch was done by Cohort Studios rather than Team17 but there's nothing new on their site either. Hopefully there is something coming still.

I'd be interested to know what you're doing on Mayhem 5. I've saved 100% but my solution was nowhere near the times at the top of the leaderboard so there must be another method.

Congrats. I was top of Mayhem 4 until yourself and that other guy decided to knock me off.

Taxing 6 is one of a couple of levels where the maximum is limited only by the number of floaters you have. Very irritating. I thought I'd found a Lose 1 solution but sadly the exit is placed a few pixels further right than I needed it to be.

Thanks. I'll still not read the hints just yet, but at least that's one red herring I can ignore.

Anyway, I just managed lose 0 on Mayhem 5! My original method worked but it took quite a bit of fiddling to save the extra frames I needed. My time was much slower than the ones at the top of the leaderboard so I guess there must be a different way to do it, but I can't say I care much.

I'll edit in my solution in a bit.

1. Pause and set release rate to 30.
2. 2nd lem climbs.
3. When 3rd lem exits, pause and set release rate to 1.
4. Climber builds as close to the left edge as possible. Block as soon as 4th brick is laid (needs to be standing on 4th brick).
5. 4th lem climbs, turns and builds on lowest brick. Hopefully the 6th lem won't fall in the pit.
6. 6th and 8th lems build over the trap.
7. Set release rate to 99.
8. 4th lem climbs out of the left pit and floats. Build up to the terrain block on the right.
9. Build again about 1/3rd of the way from the left of the block. Continue building into the wall and build again as soon as you're facing left.
10. Build all the way up. He'll turn, so build into the wall again to turn back to the left.
11. Climb and bash to free the blocker. Dig from the left pit, and use the freed blocker to build to the exit.

Nice work!

I think I'm getting closer to finding the save 10 solution, but I must be missing something important somewhere. I'll avoid reading the spoiler for now though.

That and Mayhem 5 are the only ones I haven't saved the known maximum on. The latter is annoying me. I've got a solution that in theory allows for 100%, but timing-wise I'm literally just a few frames away from making it work. It's making me wonder if my method is wrong, but I don't see any other way that it could be done.

I was quite pleased to find the save 8 solution to Mayhem 4, becoming only the second person on the leaderboards to have done so. I'm surprised it's not been found by more people since it's much easier than the above levels.

I've found the following list (from ps3trophies.co.uk) which two people have confirmed to work for them. It's an odd mix of requirements that does not require the known maximum for all levels, but it does require backroute solutions to several. Of course it may not be completely accurate, but it's a start.

EDIT: removed list.

I'm downloading this as I type. When I first heard the news a while ago it was reported that some DLC is on the way as well, presumably new levels. Hopefully that's the case.

It's a fun version. It uses the eight classic skills but also uses the Lemmings 3 mechanic of being able to collect more of these in the level, as well as adding teleports and clone machines. If you have a PS3 then it's definitely worth picking up. There are only 45 levels, but it only costs £3.49!

I wonder if the the gold trophy description is accurate. It's going to be quite hard if it uses the actual maximum based on the current records, rather than the expected maximum excluding backroutes.