Hooray for good vibes and hooray for Lemmings. Also, since you posted here I can jump at the chance to say, hooray for SuperLemmix! It's a lot of fun to play, I'm fascinated by the project in general, and the work that you've done is pretty amazing. I had some trouble downloading it previously because my stupid laptop is stupid, but now I'm up and running and it's fab. I also appreciate the ongoing discussions about what to change and what to keep the same, but I also understand that SuperLemmix's overall philosophy is different from NeoLemmix's, which is all good. It's all lemmingy fun.

Also, your comment about turning 40 made me feel old.

My current profile pic is from Lemmings Paintball but maybe I should change it to Wise Old Lorock from the Lomax game.

I really appreciate your in-depth thoughts about this, especially as you have such a thorough view of the game's strengths and weaknesses. I'm still in the early levels of the game, but I'm enjoying it on my own terms, and it's also useful to know what to expect as I keep playing. Knowing myself, I imagine I'll play it haphazardly or even intensively for a while... and then drop it for a long break. That's just how I roll.

In summary, the game IS fun - and I can just about overlook the things I really dislike about it in order to play it and have a good time. Previously, I might not have thought so. Currently, I feel like it's something I can just about add to my list of "casual" Lemmings games to dip into from time to time. And that's cool.

I commute a lot, so games like Lemmings Puzzle Adventure (and Lemmings Touch) are possibly things I could work into my gaming routine, see if it helps me keep my neurons sparking in a positive and helpful way.

Disclaimer: Puzzle Adventure is NOT a fantastic game. I know this, and I want to acknowledge that right at the start. However, recently when I was bored and distracted I decided to re-download it to my phone and give it another go, and after 18 months since my last attempt, I can report that I'm enjoying myself more than I expected.

LPA is currently on season 66(!), and we all know exactly what kind of mobile game it is, but I feel like Exient did a good job of creating a lemmings game based on their brief. The tile-based gameplay for a touchscreen makes complete sense, and I actually find it less fiddly and frustrating than, say, Lemmings Touch on my PSVita. Is that heresy? All I know is, Touch may be a superior Lemmings game, but I did find the controls a bit of an obstacle at times.

Meanwhile, Puzzle Adventure DOES seem to have been tweaked and improved a bit. The free-to-play mobile game structure is still awkward and cringey, but the updates seem to have made it so that the prompts and ads are less intrusive and annoying. Because I'm a principled son-of-a-badger, I refuse outright to pay for in-game stuff OR to watch ads in exchange for gameplay features. And, 99% of the time, this seems to work for me. A lot of the prompts seem to be optional now, which I'm not sure was the case when I last tried the game over a year ago. I can get away with not paying anything or watching ads for as long as I like, it seems.

I admit that maybe I'm misremembering. And the only reason I decided to give the mobile game another go is because I was bored, curious, and knee-deep in my current Lemmings hyperfixation (hooray for neurodivergence!). But the core gameplay of LPA is short, moderately satisfying, and obviously designed to encourage you to keep playing no matter what. Sure, it deviates from the core Lemmings formula that we all know and love, but then again, so do Lemmings games like Paintball, Revolution, Lomax, etc. If it wasn't part of the Lemmings franchise, I probably wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. But because it's Lemmings, it has just enough charm and familiarity for me to engage with it... for the time being.

Has anyone else tried LPA again recently? Its negative reputation is possibly not completely fairly earned, and playing it certainly involves a mental adjustment. It'll never replace any of the other Lemmings games in my affections, but thanks to my stupid restless brain and my curiosity I can report that it's not all bad.

Other lemmings games are designed to be played to completion. With LPA, there IS no completion. The aim is to keep playing, and keep playing, and keep playing, forever. Once you realise that, you can make the game work for you - and simply drop out whenever you want. It's very disposable. As mobile games go, it's towards the higher end of the continuum, considering some of the awful crap that's out there. And that seems to be because Exient's software updates have been aimed at making it more user friendly lately.

Thoughts, anyone?

Hi all,

Happy New Year! (Yes, I can get away with saying that until at least February, so deal with it )

I haven't dropped by the forums for a little while as I've had far too much going on in my life, but with the start of a New Year I wanted to try to get things off to a positive start and spread some love around the interwebs while I'm at it. Let's face it, 2024 has the potential to be a scary or unhappy year in many ways, so I wanted to try to tackle that with some wholesome goodness. I've been getting back into Lemmings in a big way since the middle of December - I'm fascinated by the developments in SuperLemmix, and in the meantime I'm considering making some brand new levels in the NeoLemmix editor... something I haven't actually done in this community since 2010! (Yes, I'm an old fart)

So, here are some random bullet points based on the title of this thread. It's silly, it's fluff, it's nonsense, but it's my way of saying hello, happy new year, and that I hope everyone is doing okay these days. Hooray for Lemmings!

What I Love About The Lemmings Community:

1) It has huge longevity and it feels like it'll be around forever. People love the original games with a passion, and new generations of fans have joined in, and even though the Lemmings licence has had its own ups and downs over the years, I feel like there's enough love and creativity in the fan community that some form of playable lemmings game will be around for years to come

2) Literally thousands and thousands of levels to play. And some fiendish puzzles that I know, deep down, I'll never properly solve. You're all too intelligent and cunning for the likes of me. And that's fine

3) The variety of creators and designers and fans here on the forums, and the way in which people come and go and are always made to feel welcome on their return (speaking from my own experience). Even though I haven't been playing Lemmings solidly through 2023, I've been lucky enough to connect to some really lovely and fascinating folks via this online space, and it has helped me in a number of ways with some things involving my overall wellbeing and personal growth, mental health, etc. I won't bore you with the details, but I love that this place contains a variety of lovely nerds It has more of a positive impact than you might realise

4) NeoLemmix. It just rules, man

5) The feedback and commentary and content of Lemmings community members who regularly post stuff on YouTube for me to sit down and enjoy. Random highlights from the likes of kaywhyn, Ichotolot, Flopsy, WillLem, Tomato Watcher, and so many more.

6) And, errrm, I love that whenever I watch a YouTube video by Flopsy, the algorithm decides to recommend me Sophie Ellis-Bexter music videos alongside them. Yay!

Okay, I'll shut up for now. This thread was fairly spontaneous, after all. I'd love to hear other people's thoughts, but it's also okay if you feel like you don't have much to say or you don't know how to article it properly. I empathise with that a LOT.

I just wanted to express my overall gratitude and start 2024 with a smile. I'm looking forward to messing around with NL Editor and maybe throwing together some ridiculously easy levels that can be solved in 5 seconds by every single one of you.

Cheers from Ye Olde Weirdy Beardy

Yes, I've been running the L2-FIX.COM - and when I do, DOSBox seems to begin loading the game in a window, and then stops. There's text in the window indicating that the crack has been detected, but all that shows after that is a blinking cursor.

Honestly, I'm baffled. I'm going to re-download and re-install, just to make sure there are no extraneous files or data that's influencing the boot-up without me realising.

Thank you for your input. <3

Quote from: weirdybeardy on January 27, 2023, 10:39:55 AM

I fully admit that I'm just passing the time while I figure out how to get my copy of Lemmings 2 to work properly on DOSBox. At the moment it refuses to load anything beyond the first level of each tribe, and until I get it sorted I won't be able to play Tribes of Steel or Quest From Kieran 2, which I've been *itching* to try since I re-connected with the Lemmings fan community!

You probably have the demo version, which doesn't allow you to go beyond the first level of each tribe.
I think you'll need to run L2-FIX.COM, if I remember correctly? Or maybe it was something else, but give it a shot.
Here's a download that has it: https://www.camanis.net/lemmings/files/games/lemmings_2/lemmings_2_dos.zip

I think that's the version I already downloaded (it seems to contain all the levels, as well as the L2-fix thingy) - but I might re-download it anyway. I'm using DOSBox via the D-Fend Reloaded front-end, which allows me to play different DOS games by quickly and easily clicking profiles rather than mounting the c: in the DOS prompt every time. I wonder if that's part of what's causing my issues...?

I fully admit that I'm just passing the time while I figure out how to get my copy of Lemmings 2 to work properly on DOSBox. At the moment it refuses to load anything beyond the first level of each tribe, and until I get it sorted I won't be able to play Tribes of Steel or Quest From Kieran 2, which I've been *itching* to try since I re-connected with the Lemmings fan community!