Quote from: mobius on November 10, 2022, 03:58:23 PM11-12 Two Laps Finale

50 Lemmings, save all
6:15

1 floater, bomber and blocker. 13 builders, 1 miner


Good:
After a string of backroutes and way too easy levels finally, a decent challenge.

I have a nice backroute for this level. No teleporters or switches touched and three builders left...

Quote from: LemSteven on December 15, 2011, 11:59:41 PMEDIT: Taking another look through my scores, I improved 11-7 (Don't Let them out!) to 49/50, glitch-free.  Fairly straightforward, actually.

Well, today I found a way to achieve 49/50. I guess one can call it "glitch-free" and "fairly straightforward", but of course it uses the well know backdoor.


I also have a version which does not use the backdoor. Here I achieve 48/50.

Ok, now I finally managed to save 57 lemmings.

Two stacks of blockers are needed for this. The first is made up of three "oh-noers" (see the Pirohiko video), the second of two floaters and one "oh-no" lemming. The aforementioned staircase is also part of the solution. Attached are a few screenshots of my video.

In the meantime, I've managed to optimize the Pirohiko strategy a bit. I replaced a bomber with a staircase. This way, I can now save 56 out of 60 lemmings. The bridge must be placed precisely (see the attached image). Of course one could also optimize the bombing itself and then use the staircase to save all of the three stacked blockers. Nevertheless, it's still a mystery to me how to achieve 57 saves.

Quote from: LemSteven on December 15, 2011, 11:59:41 PMEDIT 2: I also improved 11-10 (Lemming be thy name...) to 57/60.  This one takes advantage of the fact that "oh-noers" can survive splat falls, as well as stacking blockers to make the falls survivable for the others.

Are there any further details about this claimed solution available? I ask because Pirohiko solved this level in 2008 using exactly the same method as described by LemSteven above and was only able to save 5 of the worker lemmings (a total of 55 out of 60). Pirohiko's solution can still be viewed on YouTube:

 

Quote from: IchoTolot on September 28, 2025, 08:44:29 PMI can assure you that the level is still solvable. 

I attached a replay of the intended solution working on the newest version if you want to have a guide.

So from two possible solution pathways one is left and finally someone will use the intended one. Thanks anyway.

I wanted to follow kaywhyns Video tutorial on Lemmings Reunion. But apparently he uses an older version of the levels -- e. g. Level 1.30 was substantially changed and seems now much harder to solve (if it is at all solvable). Has someone still the older version of the Levels available (for NeoLemmix)?

Quote from: GuyPerfect on May 05, 2012, 06:35:07 PMThe .LVL files are going to be the most complex, so I'll be starting another thread for those to work out the details. This thread should be reserved for merely documenting the format once it's figured out.

I could not find a corresponding thread. Was this ever done? The folder containing the .lvl files is named "COMPILED". That means one might not be able to reconstruct the original files?

I thought the word "Timed Door" would refer to a door with a time mechanism. Which would mean the description of the level "Lock In" in the wiki would be wrong. But I found that a mechanism counting the number of Lemmings is contained in their definition of "Timed Door" (https://lemmings.fandom.com/wiki/Timed_Door).

Thank you for the graphics. They are very helpful for animating the levels. I compared the sprite sequences for the water animation frame-by-frame with the in-game animations and they match exactly (and still my water animation looks strange ).