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Title: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 16, 2022, 02:41:16 PM
Level 9, Zany. There is no solution to this level. Despite many repeated attempts, I think it's impossible to beat. Does anyone have a solution for it?
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: IchoTolot on March 16, 2022, 04:26:38 PM
I can confirm that both the normal and the talisman solution are indeed possible.

I can give you a hint for one of the skills for the normal 19/20 solution:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 09:40:51 AM
Making a path to the exit with a single lemming is possible, but... when mining diagonally to the exit (from right to left) there's a gap and the lemmings fall off the screen.

I don't think it's possible to solve this level!
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: IchoTolot on March 18, 2022, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 09:40:51 AM
Making a path to the exit with a single lemming is possible, but... when mining diagonally to the exit (from right to left) there's a gap and the lemmings fall off the screen.

I don't think it's possible to solve this level!

Maybe mining diagonally to the exit (from right to left) is indeed not the correct approach. ;)

You are totally correct that this method does not work. So let's use something different!

Try to think of a different way to reach the exit, as there is only one possible direction left where to come from, try thinking about
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 03:51:04 PM
Thank you for your tips.

Unless I can see a video of the solution, I will personally say it's not possible to complete this level. I've tried, and tried (and tried over and over again), to no avail.
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Swerdis on March 18, 2022, 07:22:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8-Efqs9hO8
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 09:03:29 PM
Thanks for the video solution.

(Without revealing spoilers) I didn't think it was possible to build at a certain point without the lemming turning around :lemming:.

The ultimate question: how is it possible to save all 20 out of 20?
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: Dave4 on March 18, 2022, 09:03:29 PM
Thanks for the video solution.

(Without revealing spoilers) I didn't think it was possible to build at a certain point without the lemming turning around :lemming:.

The ultimate question: how is it possible to save all 20 out of 20?

I would NEVER have worked this out tbh. https://youtu.be/t_kmd1JfqYw?t=1198

Probably one of the hardest levels so early in the game!
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: IchoTolot on March 19, 2022, 11:58:32 AM
Then that is not the only 20/20 solution.

Attached a replay. :)



Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: Dave4 on March 21, 2022, 05:14:43 PM
Good work. ;) Your playback makes the level solution look so easy for a difficult level. Why didn't I think of that lol!
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: MASTER-88 on July 27, 2023, 08:51:29 PM
IIRC There was one impossible level PSP Lemmings when you play it with Lemmixplayer. That was Special level 33 Cagey Business.

Lemmix player, like neolemmings too requires 2 builder over the whisper trap. I see PSP Lemmings could build it with one only. I spend good amount waste time and not succes it, so i´ll going watch PSP version video and i figured it was impossible with lemmixplayer. That was just version difference which not was fixed.

Yeah that was only impossible level i ever played. Though im not goes count "EXTREME" Levels which required huge amount skills and so much Freak timings. Those levels not are impossible, but way too hard by many persons.

Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: ericderkovits on July 27, 2023, 09:15:50 PM
yes, it was in lemmix, but in Aaron's v29I lemmix players, he fixed that level.

here is the zip of the extra levels v29I lemmix player. also includes the replays (including PSP's Cagey Business)
Title: Re: Impossible level (literally!)
Post by: MASTER-88 on July 28, 2023, 07:53:50 PM
I´ll see. I just attempt that impossible level myslef some years ago.

I just imagine what to hell i overlook here. I think i spend 2-3 hours and give up and check out video. Yes that was version bug. See it later fixed.

Impossible levels are always nasty. You might spend tons time, but cannot just beat.

I am make some impossible levels myself, when i build my 2nd pack. I used very old NeoLemmings version. Gliders flight path was different and lemmings jumping into goal was fixed. I didn´t know it then. Later fixed everythings. Its piss me off little bit and definitely caused some rage otherones too.

I´ll hope we not need fix neolemmings things anymore. How ever superlemmings pack and those glitch like that Slider bug i got founded. I used it my demoversion. I think that was intention, but later think it was bug. I think superlemmings need much some progress yet. I still have my demopack. I never publish it.