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Title: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on June 24, 2021, 08:35:30 PM
Hi! Here is my first pack for Neolemmix. It's called "Mikes Lemmings" .

The pack contains 17 levels. It contains two main ranks with 7 levels each , and a Bonus rank which contains 3 levels. The 14 levels in the two main ranks , and one level in the bonus rank are made by me , and the other two levels from the Bonus rank are "Lemmix to Neolemmix" level conversions , that I have done in the past.

The two converted levels are: "Is There a Pilot in the Rocket ?" by Dodochacalo , and "Bubble Bath" by Gronkling.

The levels have already made their appearance in the "Levels by Turrican" thread , but now they make their appearance in a levelpack too.

You will find the pack , as an attachment in the bottom of this post. I have attached also , the replays of the solutions of the levels.


About the tilesets : Some of the levels use tilesets that are new , so here are the links to download them , if you haven;t already :

Loderunner 2 styles by 92Dexter11 : https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5535.0

Rayman tilesets by David : https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=5483.0


About the music :

Here is the link for my Dropbox , where you can download the music tracks for the levels of the pack:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ygrdpehl0zrdlu/Mikes%20Lemmings%20music.rar?dl=1

It contains a folder , called "Turrican projects". You need put that folder , inside the music folder.

All music tracks , have appeared also in the "Levels by Turrican" thread . There was a level , that had it's music track changed, so , you will find the new music track , in the Dropbox link.

Special thanks to :

Nessy and Namida , for putting some of their levels in the "Bits of levels you can finish" thread , so I could use them as basis for four of the levels , contained in the pack.

IchoTolot ,  for giving me permission to put his solution for "FC Lems screwed by the refs" , in the replay collection.

Armani , IchoTolot and Kaywhyn , for sending me solutions for several levels , that are contained in the pack ( in the "Levels by Turrican" and LOTY 2020 threads.

EDIT : I have uploaded the version 1.09 of the pack.

                                            Here are some pictures from some of the levels in the pack:


(https://i.imgur.com/TMVk0Y7.png)
                    "Miniature Lemmings"

(https://i.imgur.com/KEkWbYO.png)
                                                          "Dockside Warehouse"

(https://i.imgur.com/vmBGcsi.png)
                                                                                                      "Airborne Rodents"


Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on July 11, 2021, 10:27:11 AM
Just leaving this post here to say it's on my "to-play" list.

It's just that the list is currently quite large and that it may take a bit. :P
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on July 12, 2021, 01:57:23 PM
Ok! Thank you Icho! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 10, 2021, 07:22:05 PM
Uploaded the version 1.01 of "Mikes lemmings". It contains changes in the following levels :

"To the Stargate!" : The new version , contains a backroute fix. The stoners are now pick-up skills.

"FC Lems screwed by the refs" : The skillset now in this level , is a little more strict. The change is : -1 basher/digger/blocker ( in the pick-up skills)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 10, 2021, 09:20:21 PM
Uploaded the version 1.02 of the pack. It fixes an error in the info file that seemed to cause an "Failed to save memory" erron in my Neolemmix. If you have downloaded the previous version , please use the new version instead.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 20, 2021, 11:08:20 PM
Uploaded the version 1.03 of the pack. It contains one new level. The level is : Bonus 1 - "Excavations in the Cubic Cave".
I uploaded also the updated replay collection , that now contains , the replay of the new level too.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on September 25, 2021, 06:20:50 PM
Played through the pack today and here are my replays for you to check for backroutes. ;)

More feedback will probably come when my solutions are backroute proof.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on September 26, 2021, 01:17:28 PM
I remember 1 thing that I did not report though:

The style with the pencils is missing its minimap color! :)

--> There is no minimap on "Wicked 01".
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 26, 2021, 04:54:06 PM
@IchoTolot : Thank you for playing the pack! :thumbsup:

About your solutions:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


About Wicked 1 : Yes , I have noticed it too. It seems that it is an issue with the style. The level use the "image" style from the Rayman's tilesets. I have played another level that uses this tileset ("Wizard duel" by David) , and it has also , the same issue.

Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 27, 2021, 09:55:17 PM
Upoaded the version 1.04 of the pack. It contains backroute fixes for the following levels :

Wild 6 - "Outside the Control Room" : I have added an "one-way-force" object to the level.

Wicked 7 - "Airborne Rodents" : One of the stoners is now a pick-up skill.

Bonus 1 - "Excavations in the Cubic Cave" : I have made some small changes on the exit area.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on September 28, 2021, 04:13:32 PM
Here are my updated replays. :)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 29, 2021, 12:04:45 AM
@IchoTolot: Your solutions for Wild 6 and Bonus 1 are intended. Good job! :thumbsup:

Your solution for Wicked 7 is backroute , so I did some changes to the level.

As a result , I have uploaded the version 1.05 of the pack.

It contains the version 1.03 of "Airborne Rodents".
That version ,contains changes on the layout of the exit area , the number of Lemmings and save requirement , and on the solution of the level.

I have uploaded also, the updated replay collection of the levelpack , which contains the solution of the new version of the level.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on September 29, 2021, 03:41:43 PM
Let's just say, I think the fix at the exit gate with the traps made the backroute way worse. :evil:

Maybe before submitting the next version of it for the Community Pack let's first make sure it gets past me unbroken. When it is fixed without me backrouting it again then I can update it there as well. :)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 29, 2021, 04:20:19 PM
@IchoTolot:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 29, 2021, 08:11:48 PM
I have uploaded the version 1.06 of the pack. It contains the version 1.04 of "Airborne Rodents". It contains some changes on the skillset , and on the solution of the level.

I have uploaded also, the updated replay collection of the levelpack , which contains the solution of the new version of the level.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on September 29, 2021, 08:15:25 PM
And here are what should be the final version of my replays. :)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on September 29, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
And here are what should be the final version of my replays. :)

That's correct! All your solutions now , are intended , or acceptable alternatives! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: IchoTolot on October 10, 2021, 02:50:06 PM
While recording the pack I might have found an error in one of the levels:

- Wicked 4 (The VAR edition of FC Lems) there is a trap hidden inside the large part of terrain left of the exit.
I did not notice it while playing as clear physics was not nessesary, but during recording I like to show the clear physics picture as well and I noticed that weird trigger area inside the terrain.

I bet it was an oversight while placing the other traps so I am reporting it here. :)
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on October 10, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
While recording the pack I might have found an error in one of the levels:

- Wicked 4 (The VAR edition of FC Lems) there is a trap hidden inside the large part of terrain left of the exit.
I did not notice it while playing as clear physics was not nessesary, but during recording I like to show the clear physics picture as well and I noticed that weird trigger area inside the terrain.

I bet it was an oversight while placing the other traps so I am reporting it here. :)

You are correct! That trap was an oversight , so I removed it.

The result : I have uploaded the version 1.07 of the pack. It contains the version 1.04 of "FC Lems screwed by the refs - VAR edition" , which has a trap that had beeen placed inside the terrain by mistake, removed.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on October 24, 2021, 09:28:16 PM
I have uploaded the version 1.08 of the pack.

It contains the updated versions of  "FC Lems screwed by the refs" ( version 1.09 ) , and  "FC Lems screwed by the refs - VAR edition" ( version 1.05 ) .

Both new versions , contain a backroute fix , for a backroute that I have found , that worked in both levels.
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: kaywhyn on December 18, 2021, 12:15:44 PM
Hi Turrican,

I have solved all of the pack. Here are my replays. Also, I know you're already aware, but I'm going to link to my LP of the pack in case anyone else wants to watch it (I know you all do! :laugh:):

LP link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsK3ZHMJTjd-huos3Qmsrpx (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbp2m4KlFpJsK3ZHMJTjd-huos3Qmsrpx). Enjoy! :P

General Feedback

This is Turrican's first NL pack and is a small one of 17 levels: 7 levels each in the two main ranks, as well as 3 levels in the Bonus rank. The levels in the Bonus rank consist of two levels from other authors that Turrican decided to put in the rank, as well as a level from Turrican himself, which he added to the pack in later versions. Despite being a small pack, it's not an easy pack by any means. In particular, I think most would do fine with the Wild rank. The Wicked rank is where there's a noticeable step up in difficulty. I certainly felt it, and it was pretty much slow going throughout, although some levels I was simply a dummy on. Others had me genuinely stuck for a time, but eventually I came through and was able to solve them. The interesting thing is that I essentially got two levels solved each time in the difficulty rating, with the exception of the final level, which needed two videos to get solved, although they both exceeded an hour in length.

Wild Rank Feedback

As mentioned before, I think most can get through this difficulty with not too much problems, as I would say the difficulty here is around medium, which is what Turrican classified the difficulty as on the lower end. The only really hard levels in this rank were Wild 4 and Wild 7. Everything else was either easy or in between.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Wicked Rank Feedback

Lots of the levels here are a step up in difficulty, and I certainly felt the jump in the difficulty, especially since solving times slowed to the point that it was essentially just 2 levels solved per video. The exception is the final level of the rank, where I needed two videos to get it solved, although the lengths of both exceed an hour each :XD:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Bonus Rank Feedback

As mentioned, two of the levels are from other authors that Turrican decided to use for this rank, while the remaining level is Turrican's creation. These are all very quick ones, and it kind of helps that I've played the two levels that aren't by Turrican already some time ago, and so I'm already mostly familiar with the solutions to them. Hence, Turrican's level is the only new one here I haven't played before.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

For Dodochacalo's level, I mentioned that I think it was a glitch level, as it's originally a Lemmini level. However, I just checked and it's not, so I definitely confused it with another Crystal level by him which does use a glitch.

Finally, for Gronkling's level, it's a very minimal level that's supposed to demonstrate that

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also, I remember that the level had a 1-minute timer :P



Overall, nice job with your first NL pack :) Despite the short length which isn't as short as namida's Holiday Lemmings Plus pack, I still enjoyed it very much. So, thank you very much for this, and I'll be giving your Superlemmini pack a go at some point. It's not going to be for some time, but I will get to it eventually. Hope you're doing well, and I'll see you around here sometimes ;) Thanks for watching my LP and commenting on my solutions on the videos themselves too :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [Neolemmix] Mikes Lemmings [Difficulty: Medium - Hard]
Post by: Turrican on January 01, 2022, 01:41:09 AM
I have uploaded the version 1.09 of the pack. It contains updated versions for two of the levels. These levels are:

"Airborne Rodents" version 1.05 : The updated version contains a fix on the trigger area of a trap .

"FC Lems screwed by the refs - VAR edition" version 1.06 : The updated version contains a backroute fix .