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Title: [NeoLemmix v10] SEB Lems v2.00 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on September 21, 2017, 01:46:26 AM
NOTE: This version of SEB Lems is obsolete, please download the new format NL version in this topic
https://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=3849.0

(https://i.imgur.com/A3BW4z3.png)
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Download the SEB Lems v2.00 Music Pack here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sorkwoiwsqmay4u/SEB%20Lems%202.0%20music.zip?dl=1

Download the v2.00 nxp at the bottom of this post :)

v2.00 of SEB Lems is now out, this is a very sharply updated version of the pack where a vast majority of levels have gone through backroute fixes, music track swaps and sweeping changes to prepare for the new format release (I made ceiling fixes for example).
I assume this pack has now been played by the majority of forum users so I have made fixes accordingly.

I worked on fixing this pack in the old formats while making preparations for the new format conversion so there will be features that are apparent of this like ceiling fixes. I felt it was easier to do it this way.

While I have tried very hard to make sure replays are preserved, there are a handful of levels where all of the replays will be broken so be sure to check your replays for solvability after upgrading!
Apologies for any inconvenience regarding broken replays, in the majority of cases it means your solution was a back route though.

This will be the LAST update made to the old format of SEB Lems in any case. I am now entirely moving over to the NeoLemmix new formats and I will no longer be supporting this pack in old format and will move to work on the New Format version of SEB Lems. Feel free to still report any functionality problems with the pack but it will be my decision whether I choose to fix them or not (most likely I will if it's something quick to fix though).

v2.00 changelog - this is a huge update so lots of information in here. Level swaps are further down in the spoiler tag.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

V1 changelogs
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Original Release Post

Flopsy's first level pack
SEB Lems

Thanks to Wafflem for the main menu background! :)
Thanks to Gronkling for allowing me to use items from his cyber tileset in the Scrap Brain tileset.

-175 levels across 9 different ranks.
-6 main difficulties with 20 levels each: Paradise, Bittersweet, Revolution, Stormy, Murder and Rapture
-2 collab ranks with 20 levels each: MegSEBytes and Unrequited
-MegSEBytes: based on the collab pack by Wafflem and I, this contains 18 of the 30 levels from the pack, the other 12 are mixed in with the main difficulty ranks above. Whoever is named first in the author field designed the level terrain, whoever is named second inserts the objects, makes the solution, skillset and names the level. Containing 2 levels exclusive to SEB Lems
-Unrequited: A rank consisting of levels by Wafflem from Dullstar's "Bits of levels you can finish" topic. Wafflem is co-creator of all levels in this rank.
-Deep Cuts: A rank of 15 levels consisting of levels which were rejected from the main pack. Still interesting levels though.
-nearly 60 different tilesets used throughout the pack.
-79 different music tracks

Featuring 2 new tilesets:

Scrap Brain - A reimagining of the Original zone from Sonic the Hedgehog on Genesis/Mega Drive, hazards and all. Be sure to say hi to Sonic when you see him too :)

(https://i.imgur.com/9YUcIEJ.png)
Supersonic (Rapture rank)

Star Light - Another zone from the Original Sonic the Hedgehog. This zone is more Sonic friendly and less lemming friendly!

(https://i.imgur.com/txuwC0I.png)
Star Light Rollercoaster (Stormy rank)

View this topic to learn more about these tilesets and download them
http://www.lemmingsforums.net/index.php?topic=3418.new;topicseen#new


Paradise (20 levels) - Tutorial levels, X of everything levels, mostly Fun and Tricky levels
(https://i.imgur.com/ygAuTLV.png)
Is It Any Wonder?

Bittersweet (20 levels) - Still easy, sometimes less skills. Tricky difficulty.
(https://i.imgur.com/6B82Dp7.png)
Candy Floss Bonkers

Revolution (20 levels) - Taxing Difficulty, precision increase. Get on the Revolution!
(https://i.imgur.com/amaHj9s.png)
The Legend of Ray Beeston

Stormy (20 levels) - Storm is hitting the fan, harder levels overall. (Taxing/Mayhem)
(https://i.imgur.com/9WkPT8W.png)
Wild Forever

Murder (20 levels) - No prisoners now, Lemmings' lives are at stake! (Mayhem and beyond)
(https://i.imgur.com/b60RJVY.png)
Great Scot!

Rapture (20 levels) - Here it is, you've made it. Can you make it to the end? (Sunsoft rank)
(https://i.imgur.com/BXjYJw8.png)
Treversal

MegSEBytes (20 levels) -  based on the collab pack by Wafflem and I, this contains 18 of the 30 levels from the pack, the other 12 are mixed in with the main difficulty ranks above. Whoever is named first in the author field designed the level terrain, whoever is named second inserts the objects, makes the solution, skillset and names the level. Containing 2 levels exclusive to SEB Lems.
(https://i.imgur.com/hw1IEsK.png)
Spaced Out

Unrequited (20 levels) - A rank consisting of levels by Wafflem from Dullstar's "Bits of levels you can finish" topic. Wafflem is co-creator of all levels in this rank.
(https://i.imgur.com/l7fLECC.png)
The High Cube

Deep Cuts (15 levels) - Rejected levels from the main pack.
(https://i.imgur.com/xNQhWTd.png)
Down The Pan

Final Note: This is an old format Neo Lemmix version. There will be a new format Neo Lemmix version of SEB Lems eventually :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems (175 levels)
Post by: Colorful Arty on September 21, 2017, 02:02:29 AM
Heck yes! I will start my LP of this pretty soon! First upload should either be Friday or Saturday! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems (175 levels)
Post by: Wafflem on September 21, 2017, 02:33:52 PM
A huge congratulations to Flopsy for finally releasing SEB Lems after months of hard work and testing!

It has been a great pleasure working with you on testing and all the collab levels that we have both done. :thumbsup:

Thank you for making this pack, and thanks as well to all the other people (including SEB) who helped made this pack possible! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems (175 levels)
Post by: nin10doadict on September 21, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
Hoo boy. Just from a cursory playthrough of the first 3 levels, I feel like this is gonna be another one where I can't clear out rank 2. :o Oh well, I'll see what I can do. Looks fun anyway!
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on September 21, 2017, 09:30:23 PM
Just uploaded v1.81

This is a small fix to Rapture 10 which has become unsolvable in v1.8.

Everyone will have to re-download sadly. Sorry about this. Hopefully not many people have got to this level yet since it was detected early enough.

Thanks to IchoTolot for spotting this bug.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on September 22, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Congratulations Flopsy on completely your pack :thumbsup:, and your Sonic inspired graphic sets are amazing by the way.

I have just downloaded v1.81 and I'm hyped to try it out when I finish working today, but so far I just want to say that I love the rank images. Really creative :).
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: GigaLem on September 22, 2017, 07:52:31 PM
"The Ocean World" and "And so it begins" Crashes neolemmix

I can't load it at all
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on September 22, 2017, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: GigaLem on September 22, 2017, 07:52:31 PM
"The Ocean World" and "And so it begins" Crashes neolemmix

I can't load it at all

Ok, this might be due to the tileset mixing error message I sometimes get. I also get this error in Triangular Race Through Space (Deep Cuts 2).
Are you able to load the Wing Fortress levels GigaLem, if so this error message is due to the intense tileset mixing I believe.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on September 23, 2017, 03:38:37 AM
Finally started playing through the first two ranks (stopped at Bittersweet 18). Excellent levels! I have attached my replies. I don't think I backrouted any of them, but I think I might have done some levels unintentionally.

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Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: GigaLem on September 23, 2017, 07:27:52 AM
Quote from: Flopsy on September 22, 2017, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: GigaLem on September 22, 2017, 07:52:31 PM
"The Ocean World" and "And so it begins" Crashes neolemmix

I can't load it at all

Ok, this might be due to the tileset mixing error message I sometimes get. I also get this error in Triangular Race Through Space (Deep Cuts 2).
Are you able to load the Wing Fortress levels GigaLem, if so this error message is due to the intense tileset mixing I believe.

Yes I am able to load Wing Fortress, both of them
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on September 23, 2017, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: Nessy on September 23, 2017, 03:38:37 AM
Finally started playing through the first two ranks (stopped at Bittersweet 18). Excellent levels! I have attached my replies. I don't think I backrouted any of them, but I think I might have done some levels unintentionally.

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Thanks for the replays Nessy. You've worked hard on getting 100% on a lot of these and you've earned a lot of the Talismans for these levels just by playing as conservatively as you have! :)

These are the ranks where backroutes are very rare, I wouldn't consider any Paradise solution a backroute to be honest, it's just a do as you please rank and any solution is fine.
You didn't find any glaring backroutes so far.

Paradise 4's track is "Guena LG feat. Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Back 2 Paradise" for those who are curious. Yes the level is named after the song, how corny? :S

Glad some people are enjoying the nod to L3D levels, just look out for the L3D monikers and the level is either an entirely 2D level from L3D which was remade in SEB Lems or a 3D level from L3D which has been reimagined in 2D.
Party in my Head is inspired by "Let the Race Begin" from L3D, it's an Army level which had 4 trapdoors. It's not identical to this level but some of the left hand obstacles were taken from this.

Interesting bug in Star Light, I'll have to investigate this further, thanks for pointing it out!

Seems to be a growing trend with me at the moment but it tends to be that my favourite levels in SEB Lems tend to be the ones that are not commented on by other people or not well liked. Then on the other hand, the ones I inserted as filler like Candy Floss Bonkers are mentioned as being very well liked. I guess this is the reason why the pack is being well received :)

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Yes I am able to load Wing Fortress, both of them

I'm not really sure how I can fix this then, I guess it's a good job that "So It Resumes" was moved to the Deep Cuts rank because it used to be a Stormy rank level.

I'm puzzled at why Ocean World is struggling to load, it does use tileset mixing but it only has a custom inserted background which gives the black background over the ocean backdrop.
Are you able to tell me whether you get an error message or not GigaLem? If NeoLemmix just closes suddenly then it's the "Can't allocate DIB handle" message most likely.
I also found that not scrolling through the levels really fast or using F2 for level select would possibly make this crash not occur also.
Title: SEB Lems stream (Friday 29th 7.30pm EST/Sat 30th 12.30am GMT+1)
Post by: Flopsy on September 27, 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Wafflem will be streaming some later levels in the SEB Lems pack this Friday (29th Sept) 7.30pm EST. (12.30am Sat 30th GMT+1 - daylight savings time)

Specifically he will be playing levels from the Stormy, Murder and Unrequited ranks :)

Here is the link to his channel
https://www.twitch.tv/wafflemm

Note: if you are currently playing through SEB Lems and have not beaten these ranks then there will be spoilers obviously.

Hope to see you lot there :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on September 30, 2017, 09:12:25 PM
Hey Flopsy!

Here are some more replies. They are replies from Bittersweet 18 to Revolution 11. Right now I am stuck on Revolution 12 because…
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: grams88 on September 30, 2017, 10:01:26 PM
Some of those levels look really nice. The starlight rollercoaster looks quite cool and tricky me thinks.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: joshescue18 on October 05, 2017, 02:57:20 AM
I finished all of the levels.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on October 05, 2017, 11:02:10 AM
Well done joshescue, you only found 3 backroutes which was much less than I was expecting.

You backkrouted Unrequited 4 and 8, and Rapture 16

I especially liked your alternative solution to Rapture 19, didn't even know there was 2 ways to do it!

Thanks for the replays :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on October 10, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
I've released a very minor revision to the tracks in SEB Lems following a copyright clash with one of Arty's SEB Lems LP videos.

This only involves re-downloading the nxp in the original post and if you're not planning on recording SEB Lems on YouTube then this shouldn't really apply to you.
No levels have been modified in this update, this is purely a music track update :)

I have just changed inmyarms to other tracks in the SEB Lems music pack so there is no additional music needed to be downloaded.

v1.81m fix  (still called v1.81 in the filename)
- Fixes an instance of copyright infringement on YouTube discovered by Colorful Arty, I have removed usage of inmyarms from the nxp. This track will remain in the music pack because I've just reprogrammed the nxp to not use it rather than re-distribute the entire music pack minus this file.
Please feel free to delete it if you update :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: joshescue18 on October 10, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
How are my solutions?
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on October 11, 2017, 12:09:07 AM
Rapture 16 and Unrequited 4 are intended

Unrequited 8 is still a backroute :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: joshescue18 on October 11, 2017, 12:15:56 AM
How about this solution?
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on October 11, 2017, 12:22:28 AM
That's intended, well done :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on October 17, 2017, 01:51:21 AM
Wafflem will again be streaming this pack on Friday 20th October at 7.30pm EST (21st October at 00.30am for GMT)

https://www.twitch.tv/wafflemm

Look forward to seeing you all there.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on October 23, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
The Revolution rank has fallen 8-)

Attached my replies below.

Thanks again for the hint to Revolution 16
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.81 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on December 21, 2017, 09:35:14 PM
SEB Lems v1.9 is out.

Thanks to Arty's LP of SEB Lems for finding the backroutes.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.9 (175 levels)
Post by: Akseli on January 02, 2018, 10:35:49 PM
My solutions attached so far, better sooner than later, I'm not sure when I'll have more time and energy to continue.

Pre-release testers and other solvers have obviosly done good job, solutions didn't feel backroutey and like people have implied here and in IRC, levels get hard much earlier than one would think, they aren't exactly very quick and small either, and there's lots of them. :) So far my favourite is maybe Bittersweet 19: The Friday Feel Good Lounge with its delightfully dynamic solution with effective and diverse skill usage.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.9 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on January 14, 2018, 07:46:04 PM
Well it took long enough but the Stormy rank has finally fallen 8-)

I have attached my replays below.

Comments (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.9 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on January 17, 2018, 04:23:25 AM
Really nice Nessy, all solutions intended except Stormy 10 Thought of Jigsaw and Made This :)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.9 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on January 18, 2018, 02:00:21 AM
I just murdered the Murder rank 8-)

I have attached my replays below.

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Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.9 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on January 18, 2018, 07:02:57 AM
Quote from: Nessy on January 18, 2018, 02:00:21 AM
I just murdered the Murder rank 8-)

I have attached my replays below.

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All are intended, Murder 17 Medieval Mystery Zone was very marginal though, what you did at the end of the level was not intended but you swapped a skill use to make this part easier.

Really good solution to Gravity Coaster, I think no 2 solutions have ever been the same to this level.

Good luck with Rapture! You're going to need it :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on February 05, 2018, 12:24:42 AM
SEB Lems v1.91 is out, with some small backroute fixes to some of the LOTY 2017 nominations from the pack

v1.91 changelog
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

More backroute fixes to come, watch this space :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Nessy on February 15, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
Rapture has fallen 8-)

I have attached my solutions for v1.91 below.

I have also attached my new solutions to "Thought Of Jigsaw And Made This", "Medieval Mystery Zone", "The Jagged Staircase", and "What A Bonnie Wee Level!"
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Colorful Arty on February 28, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
Well, after devoting several months of my life to LPing this game, I have finally conquered all 175 levels of this monstrously large pack. Excellent levels for the most part, even if several amped up my rage meter (cough cough Gravity Coaster cough). The last two videos will be uploaded soon, although they may have to wait until after Spring Break.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on March 01, 2018, 09:00:29 AM
Congratulations on beating the pack Arty :)

Thanks a lot for persisting with the LP, I admit the levels were not easy for you from watching all of your videos. I won't be offended if you avoid my packs in future ;)

Could I have all of your MegSEBytes, Unrequited and Deep Cuts replays at some point? :)
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Colorful Arty on March 10, 2018, 03:52:41 PM
Geez sorry, I forgot to post these before spring break. Here are my final replays.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix] SEB Lems v1.91 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on March 10, 2018, 04:04:18 PM
Thanks Arty :)

Now I can start working on SEB Lems 2.0 and finally get it onto the new formats :)

Be aware that there are quite a lot of changed levels incoming when the update lands, EVERYONE will have broken replays somewhere in the pack so make sure to check those replays for changes when the time comes ;)

The changes are largely based on replays from the testers as well as Nessy, Arty and josh's replays.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix v10] SEB Lems v2.00 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on April 02, 2018, 02:32:30 AM
v2.00 of SEB Lems is now out, this is a very sharply updated version of the pack where a vast majority of levels have gone through backroute fixes, music track swaps and sweeping changes to prepare for the new format release (I made ceiling fixes for example).
I assume this pack has now been played by the majority of forum users so I have made fixes accordingly.

I worked on fixing this pack in the old formats while making preparations for the new format conversion so there will be features that are apparent of this like ceiling fixes. I felt it was easier to do it this way.

While I have tried very hard to make sure replays are preserved, there are a handful of levels where all of the replays will be broken so be sure to check your replays for solvability after upgrading!
Apologies for any inconvenience regarding broken replays, in the majority of cases it means your solution was a back route though.

This will be the LAST update made to the old format of SEB Lems in any case. I am now entirely moving over to the NeoLemmix new formats and I will no longer be supporting this pack in old format and will move to work on the New Format version of SEB Lems. Feel free to still report any functionality problems with the pack but it will be my decision whether I choose to fix them or not (most likely I will if it's something quick to fix though).

Download the nxp and v2.0 music pack in the first post of the topic ;)

v2.00 changelog - this is a huge update so lots of information in here. Level swaps are further down in the spoiler tag.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: [NeoLemmix v10] SEB Lems v2.00 (175 levels)
Post by: ericderkovits on September 26, 2020, 09:42:31 AM
In your old formats 1.81 Megsebytes, Obnoxious level 1 doesn't playing any music. I have your Seblems music for MegsebBytes installed since your MegsebByte music link is broken and you mentioned to just use the Seblems music for MegasebBytes.
Title: Re: [NeoLemmix v10] SEB Lems v2.00 (175 levels)
Post by: Flopsy on September 26, 2020, 06:53:50 PM
I'm no longer updating the old formats of SEB Lems or MegSEBytes.

All MegSEBytes levels are available in SEB Lems and SEB Lems is available in the new formats (I only put SEB Lems in new formats and not MegSEBytes for this reason) so I have no reason to be maintaining these old format packs anymore.