Post by: The Doctor on March 07, 2010, 05:18:29 AM
Then vote for your favourite!
My guess is we'll see a lot of votes for Old Tune 3? What do you think?
Post by: Simon on March 07, 2010, 03:55:30 PM
On the page, it appears as if these are missing, along with Roman 1-3.
-- Simon
Post by: The Doctor on March 08, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
Post by: Minim on August 05, 2010, 02:41:45 PM
Anyway, I voted for the title screen. It's jolly and related to the game.
Post by: namida on August 08, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
Post by: ccexplore on August 09, 2010, 03:13:41 AM
JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE @#$@*#( WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?
Whoever did the music should be fired. (To clarify: not the composers themselves per se who probably just worked with the general criteria they're given with; I mean the one person who decided on the general stylings of the new music.) Most of the new ones are just awful. Who's bright idea is it to fill the new tunes with mostly over-orchestrated, slow-paced elevator music (in the worst sense of the term)?
The difference is clear as night and day as soon as you compare the Old Tune ones (and I also the title screen) with the new ones. If their objective is to put the player to sleep as quickly as possible I think they've won gold medal on that, hands down.
With only 4 choices left, I ended up voting for the title screen. If only they had the sense to make the new music more in the style of the title screen and old tunes, and not the embarassing dreck we ended up with instead. Truly a low point in the history of Lemmings music if you ask me.
Post by: ccexplore on August 09, 2010, 03:17:49 AM
If only they had the sense to make the new music more in the style of the title screen and old tunes, and not the embarassing dreck we ended up with instead. Truly a low point in the history of Lemmings music if you ask me.
Which leads to the next question: what are the PS3 Lemmings music like? More the old-tune style, or the horrid new style from PSP/PS2?
Post by: geoo on August 09, 2010, 12:18:43 PM
And ok, they got a monotonous rhythm (guess that's the elevator criterion), but the themes themselves are actually a bit diverse. It's definately something one yould listen to in the background while doing work.
But if they borrow themes from the original games, why do they have to choose the two most annoying ones, the 'Cancan' and 'She'll be coming round the mountain'?
The third theme is a good choice, but they butchered it a bit with their trumpets that sound chopped off.The title theme is cool though.
Post by: namida on August 09, 2010, 04:32:49 PM
Post by: weirdybeardy on August 09, 2010, 06:49:10 PM
I understand completely where people are coming from about the PS2 music, but the way I see it, we know we all love the old tunes so why vote for them when other unique ones are included too? Yes, it's musak, yes it's kind of "ambient" and, errrm, non-descript, but I just remember enjoying the "mood" the music generated for me when I was playing PS2 Lemmings for the first time. I like some of the Egyptian tunes but I only wanted to vote once here.I like some of the PS3 Lemmings tunes too. Heresy!
I know I'm in a minority, but across all the versions of Lemmings I've played, I like different tunes for different reasons. Heh, I'm not called "weirdy" for nothing, after all...
Post by: ccexplore on August 09, 2010, 07:27:32 PM
Can't say I agree, I don't mind the style of the new tunes per se, they just don't fit the general Lemmings vibe; Lemmings is not such an athmospheric game.
Haha, for someone who disagrees, you sure do point out a lot of stuff that's precisely what I hate about the new music.
I suppose I could be overreacting a little and am simply biased due to familiarity with the old music. Also note that I still think the music is well-composed, which is why I say I wouldn't fire the composers but would fire the "music director".
I know I'll probably get shot down for it, but I'm the one who voted for the Crystal music.
Well I tried to give the new music a chance. I did listen to all the music we can vote for, okay maybe not the full length of each, but I think I gave each music at least 15-20 seconds worth of listening. I may be biased towards the old tunes, but I honestly cannot find much I like about the new ones. And actually, in my notes I did jotted down earth 3 and hell 3 as two that are more tolerable, and for some reason, crystal 3 (even though right next to it I put, in parenthesis, "sleepy"?
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I just remember enjoying the "mood" the music generated for me when I was playing PS2 Lemmings for the first time.
That's not a bad point actually. Perhaps the music simply makes a bad first impression on me, but might not be so bad when I actually play the game and they play discretely in the background. Then again, I tend to tune out the music completely anyway when my mind's focused on the level solving and execution.
And I still think that music can be ambient and non-descript without being slow and sedated, which tends to be the sort of feeling projected by the new-style PS2 music, at least to my ears. Cut down on the over-lush orchestration, throw in rhythms (ie. percussion) with a little more energy, and speed up the tempo a little, and I think it'd make a noticeable difference to my ears even if you keep the music ambient and non-descript (ie. no prominent melody/"tune" to speak of).
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I like some of the PS3 Lemmings tunes too. Heresy!
Well, if you can point me to the PS3 tunes I wouldn't mind giving them a listen and see what I think. I emphasize that it's not simply a matter of old vs new for me when it comes to the PSP/PS2 new music, it's the fact that the new music goes in a direction that I simply do not like. As a comparison, Lemmings 2 have totally different music from Lemmings 1 (except for Classics tribe), yet I like many of the new music in Lemmings 2 (in fact if I were to vote on the Lemmings 2 music, I probably won't vote for the Classic tribe even though it's a well-done rearrangement of 2 tunes from L1).
Can Can is actually not bad, but I agree on She'll Be Coming Round The Mountain.
Funny, I kinda go the other way. I can see geoo's point with Can Can as I find it, surprisingly given the new tunes, too energetic (though perhaps it could work with a more frentic level with lots of multi-tasking, or a short time limit). But I thought the slightly spiffed-up version of "Mountain" wasn't so bad; I'd pick it over Old Tune 3 for example.
Post by: Frevett on August 09, 2010, 11:33:25 PM
Post by: geoo on August 09, 2010, 11:59:10 PM
Haha, for someone who disagrees, you sure do point out a lot of stuff that's precisely what I hate about the new music.Actually, the only bad thing I pointed out about the music was the monotonous rhythm (and I think your suggestion of more percussion might make it stand out even more). (Well and the original tunes, which you appear to like however. I don't know, I just can't stand listening to most Lemmings versions of 'Cancan' and 'She'll be coming round the mountain'.)
Unlike you I like the instrumentation and overall style.
And if weirdy says that the music generated a good mood while playing lemmings, then I guess the 'not fitting the lemmings vibe' might be doubtful as well. Considering the different and more detailed style of the graphics, they might just match.
I haven't voted yet btw, because I don't really know which one to pick (just most definately not one of the original ones though).
Post by: Clam on August 14, 2010, 09:58:51 AM
I quite like the ambient, almost dark themes in this soundtrack. I just don't think it works for a game like Lemmings - unless every second level is set in a dark cave or haunted mansion.
I voted for the title track, Old 2 a close 2nd.
Post by: ccexplore on August 14, 2010, 10:10:54 AM
I quite like the ambient, almost dark themes in this soundtrack. I just don't think it works for a game like Lemmings - unless every second level is set in a dark cave or haunted mansion.
I stress once again that I believe the music I hate are nevertheless well-composed, and they easily have their place in other places of other games. But like ClamSpammer, I just don't see it working for Lemmings.Though I suppose given their "calming" quality (aka sleepy IMHO
), maybe it's a good way to keep the player from getting too easily frustrated with a level?
Post by: Luis on September 24, 2010, 12:31:03 AM
Post by: ccexplore on September 24, 2010, 01:53:18 AM
Why not try playing it first? That way you can experience how the music really fits the gameplay.
Haha, nice try, but if I hadn't bought a PSP for PSP Lemmings back when it first came out, I certainly am not going to spend money on it now for questionable music, not to mention that Sony has even stopped supporting some of the original features like level editing and online sharing of custom levels.
In any case, when I get in the zone with these sort of games and levels, I tune out the music anyway in my mind. So it might actually be the case that the overly ambient, unmelodic music of the PSP could be better due to being more easily tuned out.
Post by: The Doctor on November 19, 2010, 01:40:54 AM
And it really fits with the redesigned styles.
It's really nice.
But you have to have played it. Imagining it doesn't work.
Post by: Luis on November 19, 2010, 05:04:57 AM
I think you really have to play the game with the music to like it. When you're playing, it all just makes sense. The music is just a backdrop, not something at the forefront.
And it really fits with the redesigned styles.
It's really nice.
But you have to have played it. Imagining it doesn't work.
You do need to play it to like it. That Earth 3 really fits that brown theme level that looks like a desert. People are stuck in the past Lemmings music.
Post by: The Doctor on November 19, 2010, 06:55:33 AM