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Title: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: GigaLem on December 13, 2009, 12:03:24 AM
How do you make your own tile set i want to know how
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: namida on December 13, 2009, 07:09:23 AM
No one's released utilities for it yet. Lemmix editor can uncompress existing ones, but not decode them or recompress new ones - and it's very difficult for creating vgaspec files.
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: EricLang on December 13, 2009, 12:05:25 PM
I'm planning to add it in Lemmix. Working on it right now
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: Dullstar on December 13, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
Wait, REALLY?  Wow, like REAL tilesets?  Could they be used in CustLemm if you did it right?
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: EricLang on December 13, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
I think so, yes. I just started writing code to change the groundxx.dat and vgagr.dat files and fill them with new pictures.
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: Dullstar on December 13, 2009, 07:36:27 PM
Hey, great!  That's awesome.  Plus, I just fixed my Linux issue (NEVER use the same home directory for multiple installations, even if the second one is just updating the first, just back up the important stuff, wipe clean, and restore)
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: EricLang on December 13, 2009, 07:49:41 PM
My first test with the first graphic set of original lemmings.
Loading the original and then writing it back to a new groundxx.dat and vgagrxx.dat gives this.
Reloading it afterwards gives a valid result already.
Something goes wrong with the colors, but I'm getting somewhere :)
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: Dullstar on December 13, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
How long ago did you start that?
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: EricLang on December 13, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
I started today. It's a tricky thing getting it 100% ok.
Started with the new editor about 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: namida on December 14, 2009, 03:38:48 AM
A request, if you don't mind: Can you make the VGASPEC creator a bit simpler? It's quite vague that it just says "too many colours" without any further explanation. Or perhaps a guide on how to create them better to fit Lemmix's requirements?
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: GigaLem on December 14, 2009, 05:02:45 AM
Or maybe lemmix tilepro
And lemmix extendpro
Tilepro
Extract a file of terrain from a pc game (like ricochete infinity) or your own tarrain file
Object design fit 14 positions
You can Chose from
Exit pt1(make only one)
exit pt2(make only one)
Door (make only one)
Colored flags
Traps (Shooter,sucker,crusher, or step into Make up to 6)
and Water

Extendpro
If you have a peace or terrain you made from erasing and other stuff
click on that tool
And save it on a file to keep forever or until the computer needs to be rebooted(erases data when theres too many viruses)
Just drag or draw aroud the tarrain you made cut it and save it
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: ccexplore on December 14, 2009, 09:12:30 AM
Quote from: namida on 2009-12-13 21:38:48
A request, if you don't mind: Can you make the VGASPEC creator a bit simpler? It's quite vague that it just says "too many colours" without any further explanation. Or perhaps a guide on how to create them better to fit Lemmix's requirements?

This is a limitation of Lemming's VGASPEC format.  It can only represent a 960x160 bitmap of up to 7 colors (not counting the transparent "black" color).
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: namida on December 15, 2009, 03:57:23 AM
I'm aware of that, thanks. My problem was more to do with giving better instructions and error messages. I wasn't aware that 7 was the limit though, I thought it was 15 but some of them pre-set. Is there any restrictions on which ones they can be?
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: ccexplore on December 15, 2009, 11:30:44 AM
The 15 was for normal non-VGASPEC graphics sets, and to be fair, I'm not 100% sure whether it would work properly for terrain graphics (ie. the "fixed" colors may be treated as non-terrain pixels, I'm not really sure).  The VGASPEC format represents each pixel only with 3 bits, leading to the 7-color limit.  There are no restrictions on the individual colors though--in fact the 7 colors defined in the VGASPEC file replaces the ones in the normal graphics set being used, which is why even objects like exits have their colors affected.

I actually don't even know Lemmix has a VGASPEC generating feature so I can't really speak to that.  I know a long while ago I released a "myvgaspec" program that converts compliant BMPs to VGASPECs, and I'm pretty sure the error messages and instructions in my program are pretty verbose.
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: Kyras on March 23, 2010, 01:44:54 AM
i reallllly want to make my own landscape!
Title: Re: How do you make your own tile set?
Post by: insulfrog on April 10, 2010, 01:29:08 PM
It's possible to make your own tile set for Lemmini and its corresponding 'styles' for Lemmix in your favourite image editor (e.g. paint) and save as (name(suffix)_x).GIF as I am doing now. 

Edit: The main problem that I am having at the minute is the 'magic colour' for the transparent sections on 'non-square' tiles.  Any ideas?

Nevermind, my problem is solved.

If you really want to make your own tile set, look here: -

http://lemmingsheaven.info/forum/index.php?topic=5.0