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Title: Possible for Digger and basher to Both Cancel When They Cross ?
Post by: Guigui on June 28, 2026, 10:31:20 AM
mod edit: Changed topic title to be a bit more descriptive and to reflect the question regarding the 4th scenario in Guigui's post

Consider the joined picture where the bottom lemming will bash through, and the upper lemming will dig down. There are different outcomes :

1) If you trigger the digger early, then the basher can stop in the digger pit and only the digger will continue.

2) If you trigger the digger later, then the digger can stop in the basher tunnel and only the basher will continue.

3) I know this is also possible to have the digger and the basher crossing each other's way without any of them to stop. I think there was a level devoted to this in the NL Introduction Pack by IchoTolot.


Now the question is, what about the 4th outcome where both the basher and the digger will stop when they meet each other ? Is that possible ?

I cannot achieve it yet, but I'm not sure because the basher animation is quite complicated and it may depend on which animation frame they cross each other...
Title: Re: Possible for Digger and basher to Both Cancel When They Cross ?
Post by: kaywhyn on June 28, 2026, 10:42:30 AM
Excellent question. The answer to the 4th scenario of whether it's possible for the digger AND basher to both stop in NL is "no." So, don't waste your time trying to get it to happen, as you won't succeed in getting both to stop no matter what ;) As a matter of fact, the only situation I know of where both skills can stop are two miners cancelling out each other. This is of course extremely fiddly and difficult to pull off, but it IS possible. In all other situations, such as basher and miner, miner and digger, etc., one of the 3 outcomes you already spelled out will happen, but never both will stop.
Title: Re: Possible for Digger and basher to Both Cancel When They Cross ?
Post by: Guigui on June 28, 2026, 10:47:04 AM
Oh great, thank you for clear answer kaywhyn. This will definitely spares me some headaches on the issue I'm currently facing !

If anyone has a little more indepth but not overcomplicated explanation about why this is impossible, I'd like to read it.

As for destructive cancelling each others, we could also mention 2 facing bashers that will cancel each others !
Title: Re: Possible for Digger and basher to Both Cancel When They Cross ?
Post by: kaywhyn on June 28, 2026, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: Guigui on Today at 10:47:04 AMAs for destructive cancelling each others, we could also mention 2 facing bashers that will cancel each others !

Well, I'm sure you mean opposite facing bashers, but this one's obvious and not as interesting as both miners cancelling each other out, which is far less obvious :P In fact, I don't think the latter is even possible in Lemmix. At least last time I checked, no matter how much I tried I couldn't get both miners to stop. My guess here is that this is just due to how miners are able to cross a 1-pixel gap on Dos/Lemmix, which of course isn't possible in NL.