As this topic is from August and not July, the changes are still to be in included with the next update.
I know, that's what I was hinting at!
Nepster only said he renamed the styles, but we have no idea to what. And if I contribute the translation table to enable proper conversion, I need to know how these styles are going to be called from now on.
Nobody complained back then, so the reasonable conclusion was that this change is indeed ok. As a result I wouldn't call it reckless.
Whent this thread was started, the tilesets were split up already. That is my point of objection, not the renaming itself. And I don't remember any threads about whether everyone would be fine with the tilesets being split up. Even if, since a small number of already existing levels using a feature generally wasn't considered an argument for not changing it back then, I doubt my single voice would have made a difference if I'm really the only one who used this tileset...
If you would have involved yourself with converting your stuff at the point of the format change and not half a year later, we could have seen this issue earlier.
I expected that criticism, but it doesn't hold up: We still have an entire subforum worth of unconverted level packs. In fact, there are still more unconverted than converted packs to this date!
That includes not only my preceding packs, but also both packs by nin10doadict, Arty's SubLems, as well as such highly acclaimed packs as Lemmings Stampede.
If any of these packs features a single level in one of these styles, conversion is impossible.
So if we want to migrate as much of the old content as possible, including that which is considered high quality by the majority of the forums, we need to make sure the conversion tools keep functioning for quite a while still. Otherwise, we could throw all translation tables in the garbage at this point, thinking that everyone has shifted to New Formats entirely anyway. Yes, the users may have, but the content most definitely has not.
Another graphic set I've just found out about is the brighter version of GigaLem's Tree tileset modification. So I'll probably take care of that one as well.
Also you seem to be very eager to use every single tileset that existed over the years.
Sometimes it's just a tiny little piece I needed from a given tileset, maybe even not to work as a piece itself, but only to erase something with it. To the editor, this doesn't make any difference though. And thus, that one missing piece can determine whether a level can be converted at all. Because when there's no translation table for just one style used in a level, the entire level doesn't get loaded up; it's not just that one piece which goes missing.
Conversions take effort. That is unavoidable.
I'm fine with effort, as long as the consensus remains that every content creator "cleans up after himself"
. If everyone converts the stuff he himself created (meaning both graphic sets and level packs), the workload is shared proportionately, and every single graphic set or level pack gets converted by the person who knows most about it.
I didn't convert Paralems and Pit Lems back in the day, because both of them featured so many levels involving radiation, slowfreeze, and anti-splat pads that I'm still not sure to this day whether these packs are suitable for conversion at all.
But of course, I have converted my own graphic sets, and will continue to convert any new ones I create, as soon as they are in their final state. I'm not complaining either about the original graphic sets which I made additions to in Old Formats - I brought that on myself, so I'm going to deal with it myself. Also, Lemmings World Tour will be converted eventually - but as I find out now, a lot of the styles made by other people, which I merely used like any other content creator, aren't available in New Formats yet. So I have to take this detour.
In fact, I also would have been completely fine with converting these styles for Gronkling, i.e. if he simply hadn't converted them yet at all. That actually would have been a lot easier than this half-completed conversion, i.e. making the pieces available for New Formats, but not enabling level conversion.
As we can see, this actively discouraged anyone else from doing the work for him, because only these three tilesets of his got left behind. The other ones (grnk1 - grnk5) are completely functional.
Bottom line, I am probably going to convert the remaining missing graphic sets, too.
But I do want to wait for a response from Gronkling whether he has functional translation tables of these styles on his PC. Otherwise, even he himself couldn't convert his own levels. And if even he as the creator - or at least "compiler" - of these graphic sets never made a single level involving them, that would be quite... strange indeed
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