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Title: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Andi on November 04, 2005, 09:32:23 AM
As it was mentioned the current ones show better expressions I ask you now, do you want the old ones back or keep this ones?
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Jazzem on November 04, 2005, 04:13:04 PM
Keep both I say, like you say the current ones do show better expression, but I do love the lemmings ones, they fit the forum theme and make the forum feel more unique.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Conway on November 04, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
I'd put the lemmings smilies in the 'more smilies' menu, and keep the original ones where they are.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Anatol on November 04, 2005, 05:37:11 PM
I prefer the Lemmings smilies. I don't really see a need for the generic ones, personally.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: DragonsLover on November 04, 2005, 06:26:45 PM
Keep both...

Btw, with a new forum, why not trying to do new lemmings smylies. I know that there's already yours and these of Mike. But, why not?
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Jazzem on November 04, 2005, 09:48:50 PM
Quote from: DragonsLover link=1131096743/0#4 date=1131128805
Keep both...

Btw, with a new forum, why not trying to do new lemmings smylies. I know that there's already yours and these of Mike. But, why not?

Well here's my dreadful, five minute attempt at a Lemming smiley!

(http://www.rocketsoft.gm-school.uni.cc/uploads/Lemming%20Smiley.gif) The hair needs a load of work (Pixel hair is a NI-I-IGHTMARE!), and the size is a little large looking at it now, but I'm sure we could build something from that, even if it is more of a womble with green dyed hair :P
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Andi on November 05, 2005, 12:02:06 PM
I also thought of making new smilies. I'll give it a try. You others can try, too. ;)
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 05, 2005, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: Jazzem link=1131096743/0#5 date=1131140930
Well here's my dreadful, five minute attempt at a Lemming smiley!

(http://www.rocketsoft.gm-school.uni.cc/uploads/Lemming%20Smiley.gif)
;D ;D ;D That certainly makes for an excellent "LOL" smilie--I still can't stop laughing as I'm writing this! :P

Anyway, keep going on it. &#A0;It is kinda cute, just needs a mouth to complete it.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Jazzem on November 05, 2005, 04:51:54 PM
Is it really that bad? :(

Or are you just finding it funny to look at? :P

But yeah, I'll fiddle around with it. I can do a little pixel art, but don't ask me to do big things or animate stuff! The womble head of the lemmings mean that it's impossible to make the mouth visible from there though. I guess I'll just have to put the expression in the eyes as with the old ones.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 05, 2005, 08:45:54 PM
Well I don't know, I just know that I started laughing when I saw it.  I don't think it's bad, more that maybe it looks goofy since it's a 5-minute attempt and looks so different from what we've seen before.

And the size isn't too big, I think it only looks big because you have that huge gray box around it right now.  The head itself is only slightly bigger (well, taller) than the standard yaBB smilies.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 05, 2005, 09:47:22 PM
[size=12]@Jazzem:  seems to work pretty well as an avatar...... ;)[/size]
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Jazzem on November 05, 2005, 10:44:49 PM
Suits you sir!

I've had another twiddle with the sprite, although not with much success. I know it doesn't seem too big, but the problem with large smilies is that they push the text above them upwards, which doesn't look quite right. But in trying to make it small, it's lost all of it's lemming look, so I may have to keep it the current size. I'll still edit it though, I can't keep the worryingly angular hair there.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 06, 2005, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: Jazzem link=1131096743/0#11 date=1131230689
I know it doesn't seem too big, but the problem with large smilies is that they push the text above them upwards, which doesn't look quite right.
[size=12]*coughmakedefaultfontsizelargercoughcough* ;)

(Though to be fair, size 12 probably won't help with this. &#A0;Then again, even the default YaBB smilies also push the text up already, and back in the old boards the smilies also do the same, so really, I think we can live with a little imperfection.)[/size]
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Andi on November 06, 2005, 09:39:16 AM
(http://people.freenet.de/lemmings/art/laugh.png) My attempt of a Lemmings Smiley.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Jazzem on November 06, 2005, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest) link=1131096743/0#12 date=1131268612
Quote from: Jazzem link=1131096743/0#11 date=1131230689
I know it doesn't seem too big, but the problem with large smilies is that they push the text above them upwards, which doesn't look quite right.
[size=12]*coughmakedefaultfontsizelargercoughcough* ;)

(Though to be fair, size 12 probably won't help with this.  Then again, even the default YaBB smilies also push the text up already, and back in the old boards the smilies also do the same, so really, I think we can live with a little imperfection.)[/size]

Ok then, I'll just edit the hair and do some emoticons.

And Andi, that's brilliant! Reminds me of Harvest Moon for some bizarre reason.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: tseug on November 06, 2005, 07:08:45 PM
Quote from: ccexplore link=1131096743/0#10 date=1131227242
[size=12]@Jazzem:  seems to work pretty well as an avatar...... ;)[/size]
Suddenly I have an idea for an avatar......a 3D rendered lemming head!

EDIT: It is done! I know it isn't very good.....but at least I have an avatar. ;)
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Andi on November 07, 2005, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jazzem link=1131096743/0#14 date=1131276663
And Andi, that's brilliant! Reminds me of Harvest Moon for some bizarre reason.

Thanks. I did the hairs a bit like the guy in HM. The other reason could be HM is anime-like, just like the eyes.
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 07, 2005, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: tseug link=1131096743/15#15 date=1131304125
I know it isn't very good.....
[size=12]It is very good...for a picture of a mushroom. :-/ My first impression was that this could be something out of a Mario game.

(But yeah, I always find 3d modeling harder than drawing, so it would have been amazing if you actually had something that doesn't look like a mushroom... ;))[/size]
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 07, 2005, 03:48:18 PM
It would seem that the most logical thing to do regarding smilies, is to revert back to the Lemmings ones used in the old board, but keep these new, default YaBB ones as alternatives.

Why?

The issue is how smilies come out on posts that were made before the upgrade.  Some of those smilies automatically become the default YaBB smilies because they share the same code.  But other ones, like :devil:, is not a default smilie code in YaBB, so they don't get turned into smilies.

But here's the thing, if we later do add back all the missing smilies from the old board, noticed that we would then have a mix of the non-lemmings YaBB smilies and the lemmings smilies, even on the old posts.  Is that what we really want?

Granted, it's not the end of the world to have such a mix of smilies, but I'm thinking that the old posts would look nicer if we stick to making the default smilies set a Lemmings one.

(This doesn't affect the voting since the voting is asking more along the lines of whether we should get rid of the default YaBB smilies altogether.)
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: DragonsLover on November 09, 2005, 12:31:19 AM
Andi, I found your smilie a little bit.......... small! :P
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: ccexplore on November 09, 2005, 05:26:08 AM
Quote from: tseug link=1131096743/15#15 date=1131304125
Suddenly I have an idea for an avatar......a 3D rendered lemming head!

EDIT: It is done! I know it isn't very good.....but at least I have an avatar. ;)
I was thinking if I look at it enough times it'll start looking more like a lemming...but instead, the more times I look at it, the more it's looking like a mushroom. :P

The biggest problem I think is that you didn't bother to shape the hairpiece and face beyond the perfect ellipsoids they started off as. &#A0;I think just by making the face ellipsoid more pear-like or egg-like (with the chin being the narrower end of course), it would be a major improvement. &#A0;The hair...well hair's always hard, but see if you can flatten the ellipsoid out a little so it looks less like a dome. &#A0;And try to find a texture bitmap for the hair that doesn't look like Astroturf. ;)
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Mindless on November 09, 2005, 03:14:20 PM
Quote from: ccexplore (not logged in)(Guest) link=1131096743/15#20 date=1131513968
Quote from: tseug link=1131096743/15#15 date=1131304125
Suddenly I have an idea for an avatar......a 3D rendered lemming head!

EDIT: It is done! I know it isn't very good.....but at least I have an avatar. ;)
I was thinking if I look at it enough times it'll start looking more like a lemming...but instead, the more times I look at it, the more it's looking like a mushroom. :P
I keep thinking it looks like a hairy acorn...  :P
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: DragonsLover on November 09, 2005, 03:15:42 PM
The lemmings big nose should be "in front" of him. Now, it looks like there's no nose at all! ;D
Title: Re: Lemmings smilies
Post by: Andi on November 09, 2005, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: DragonsLover link=1131096743/15#19 date=1131496279
Andi, I found your smilie a little bit.......... small! :P

Well, yes. Because I kept the size of the old ones.