I am liking the ideas put forward here by Herby and others.  I did find the "chink" vfx very useful in the past when I have played WinLemm and SLT with the sound off - for example, in the living room whilst the children are watching TV, if there's also a conversation going on in the room, but could also maybe be if SLX was played whilst in a public location such as on public transport, a hospital waiting room, etc.


I didn't think the "chink" text looked too bad.  Maybe if text vfx were implemented, there could be an option to either have them turned off (default), turned on on their own, or turned on with symbol vfx, although the last option may not work very well (having both activated) unless the symbol vfx that had equivalent text vfx were disabled if both were activated.  That sounds like it  would be very fiddly though, so options for either text, or symbol or none, would be the best solution?


That idea for off-screen vfx to the left and right of the screen is fab!  Could be very useful for sound-off/hard-of-hearing situations,  The only thing that could be an issue is the vfx obscuring what is occurring on the viewable screen area.  For instance, if a builder was building a bridge near the edge of the screen whilst another builder was nearing the end of the 12-brick run off the screen on the same side, and there was also other on-screen activity going on that produced vfx, it could all start to get too cluttered/confusing.  One way around that might be to have different colour vfx for off-screen and on-screen (as possibly implied by one of the screen mock-ups).
It might be pretty cool too if, for the builder vfx, if three bars would appear when three bricks remain, two bars, when two, one when one, then the exclamation mark when the builder is about to give up and walk on.
Is there really any point in a "Let's Go" vfx?  It's already visually indicated when lemmings start to fall out of the entries because you can see lemmings falling out of them   Still, if it's optional and not too difficult to implement alongside other vfx, then why not, I guess.


The timing issue for off-screen effects seemed to work just fine in WinLemm and SuperLemminiToo, although in both cases they are only audio not visual.  Does having the visual element as well make the timing process much more difficult, then? 

I think the hearing impaired would appreciate a verbose mode that includes Let's go and Yippee as well. If it's all going in the panel anyway.

I prefer a nice bright contrast myself, like a yellow or bright orange for the text.

Will the text just stay for a couple seconds and then disappear?

Well, I love a good spreadsheet so here's what we can possibly do for each of the sound cues :

N/A means Not Applicable - we won't use a Visual SFX cue here.
TBA means To Be Announced - we either won't use a Visual SFX cue here, or we need to decide on one.

Sound Cue	Text VSFX	Symbol VSFX	Panel Message (off-screen events only)
Level Start	"LET'S GO!" (above entrances/pre-placed lems)	TBA	N/A (off-screen level start areas shouldn't be formally supported)
Zombie Level Start	"BRAAAINS!" (above zombie entrances/pre-placed zombies)	TBA	N/A
Builder/Stacker/Platformer Warning	"CHINK" (above working lems)	Frustration lines (above working lems)	<- Bricks are running out! ->
(Time)Bomber 'Oh No' State	"OH-NO!" (above lem)	N/A	N/A
(Time)Bomber/Freezer Explosion / Balloon Pop	"POP" (above lem)	N/A	N/A
Hit Steel/OWW	"BONK"	TBA	<- Action interrupted ->
Lemming Death	"YIKES!"	N/A	<- Lemming lost ->
Time Up	"TIME UP" (above exits)	Clock (above exits)	Time is up!
All Collectibles Gathered	"WELL DONE"	Star (above lem)	N/A
Button Click	"CLICK"	N/A	<- Button Pressed ->
Exit Unlocked	TBA	TBA	<- Exit Unlocked ->
Lemming Exit	"YIPPEE!"	N/A	N/A

I've been having problems replying

Yes, I noticed this. I've taken the liberty of editing the affected posts for readability for now, but definitely post about it in Site Discussion if it continues (it seems to only be a recent thing for you?).

Also, the preview button/Alt-P doesn't actually show me a preview.

Again, probably something to mention in Site Discussion if you're having regular issues with it. In particular, we could do with knowing what computer/phone/etc & browser you're using to navigate the Forums, as it may be a browser-specific issue.

Why click-to-remove the panel display messages? Wouldn't this potentially cause confusion ... how will you be able to tell whether the visual prompt in the panel is an old one that you forgot to click to clear, or a current one that needs immediate action?

I should probably have been clearer about that. I meant the messages could be clicked to remove them optionally, for example if the player wants to be able to see athlete info, or any other info that uses this area of the panel's display.

By default, the message will probably be displayed for 3-5 seconds or so, or until the message is no longer relevant, whichever is soonest.

Also, would there be enough panel space for multiple messages with directional indicators to be displayed simultaneously?

Probably not tbh. This is where we hope that such limitations promote a creative solution!

For example, in a case where multiple Builders need attention at the same time, we can either simply continue displaying the same message, or display a custom message ("Multiple Builders are running out of bricks!"). Either could potentially work.

if you have a visual prompt on-screen over a lemming (e.g. "chink!") and the pause button is pressed whilst its on-screen, will that also stop the message disappearing until the pause is released, or will it still time-out and disappear?

We'll almost certainly pause all Visual SFX along with everything else. Hopefully, the rendering will already handle this by default, but I'll know what to do about it if it doesn't anyway.

Thanks for the queries. Keep these coming: questions and comments help the feature take shape