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Offline Mr. K

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« on: May 28, 2006, 01:52:10 PM »
All righty, these are the new Lemmings Forums.  All that extra-crunchy goodness, without that troublesome lag!

I'm trying to set it up as much like the real Lemmings Forums.  A lot of the current theme is placeholder (for instance I just stole the LF logo) until I get some time to fix it up.

OK, have fun, and enjoy the non-lagginess!

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 11:06:48 PM »
This is just a test to see if it works.

EDIT: I'm not getting any lag ^_^

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2006, 10:06:05 AM »
Yeah.  Now the problem just lies in getting people to migrate here for now.

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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2006, 12:06:04 PM »
I'm already here! =D

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2006, 12:38:00 AM »
Thanks, Mr. Ksoft! :D

I suggest you make a topic in Andi's forum about your forum. That could catch other members' attention.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2006, 12:51:27 AM »
I will eventually.  They seem to have died again, after working perfectly for almost... 45 minutes. :P

EDIT: Done.

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2006, 07:13:38 PM »
w00t! You know, I always did like this style of forum better for some reason. The "new" old lemmings forums aren't Lemming-y enough. But! Bring back the Lemmings smileys :)

Getting people to migrate here shouldn't be too tough, really. Considering it's not really possible to even contact the other forum most of the time, where else would you turn for Lemmings goodness?

Plus this looks pretty close to the old style of the lemmingswelt forums anyway, so it's an easy transition.

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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 08:37:23 PM »
I was planning to put the Lemmings smilies back into place, but-- I can't find 'em!  I even went through a bunch of topics at the old boards and couldn't find them.  Wonder if anyone has them?

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2006, 11:32:53 AM »
Hey! Nice board!

Well, I'll delete the old forum after some time then (You can have all the files if you want.) And probably also the rest of the site and host it somewhere free.

Yes, I'm not dissapointed or so that you opened an new forum, I fully understand that. The lag was miserable.

But what I care for is, that you used the old logo without my permission (I would have allowed you if you asked me first).
And the Lemmings smilies are ALSO by me. I dunno what goes through your mind, but is it that difficult to ask me for the smilies by eMail or PM? And for the subtitle, well...

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2006, 12:20:45 PM »
Hello Andi!

My mind's a bit odd really.  Most logical thoughts don't happen.  So obviously I just took the logo trying to make a familiar atmosphere.  And I hadn't thought that you made the smilies.  I thought someone else did.

The logo was going to be a placeholder anyway, as it looks a little out of place... just a bit.  I've just got to make the new logo.

Subtitle... well... eh, I dunno.  *changes*

I could take the old forum files.  Maybe after a while someone will actually make a convertor for YaBB 2 so then I can merge it with this board.

I don't know what's happened to half Lemmings Forumers, but maybe if you can still get into the old boards then you can get them coming.

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2006, 08:00:34 PM »
Quote from: Andi
Hey! Nice board!

Well, I'll delete the old forum after some time then (You can have all the files if you want.) And probably also the rest of the site and host it somewhere free.

Yes, I'm not dissapointed or so that you opened an new forum, I fully understand that. The lag was miserable.

But what I care for is, that you used the old logo without my permission (I would have allowed you if you asked me first).
And the Lemmings smilies are ALSO by me. I dunno what goes through your mind, but is it that difficult to ask me for the smilies by eMail or PM? And for the subtitle, well...
Did you actually find out what the exact problem is? It seems to me that it is the Perl script, since the other files work without any problems.

Anyway, I'd like to still be able to access the information of your old Forum, what format is it in? And, if you remember, there were threads which couldn't be displayed for some reason (especially the older ones). Is their information still available?

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2006, 08:56:08 PM »
I made several backups before and after the change to Yabb2. I really think it where the scriptfiles because before YaBB2 we hadn't any problems. Had we? They used a lot of new code in YaBB2 and the Perl installed on my webspace was pretty old.

And because damn lazy kontent-!#$@heads are unable to transport their domains I still wait since a month for the "All-new-great-shiny-system-with-tons-of-great-features". ?_?

Ah, to go back to the posts. The unaccesable ones are also saved, but because of some reason the Converter didn't converted them. So they are still in the YaBB1 Format, or already in YaBB2 and upload failed. I can't remember because after some time you made so many posts I was afraid to change something in the datafiles.


Well then, seems like I'll be dole for the next time. Not that bad. I think I'll enjoy relaxing and seeing the others doing the work. ^^ LF was the last projekt I administrated for now about 5 years.

PS: I'll upload the smilies soon so you can download them.

Ah, will you ever enable uploads? I once planned it but I still wait for the system-update.

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2006, 09:30:30 PM »
Uploads... oh, gawd.

The modification to add attachments in PhpBB is expert-level.  I tried it on another and failed miserably.

But here's a thought:  What if I upgrade this forum to the feature-rich Simple Machines Forum?  It's got all we need and is easier to upload, plus it is the successor to YaBB SE.  It's even got a YaBB styled theme included so it'll be easier to snatch the look of the old LF.  What say?  It will be a quick operation, basically:

PhpBB 2.0.20>>SMF 1.0.7 (separately)>>PHPBB to SMF convertor>> SMF 1.1 RC2

Yay?  I'd like to do it; PhpBB is stupid and a new version is out; but the upgrade looks like a pain in the arse unless I have shell access (which I don't)

EDIT:  The SMF is ready, I'm going ahead with this.  If it fails, then I can still fallback on this.

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2006, 12:23:52 AM »
(You can have all the files if you want.)
I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2006, 04:27:17 PM »
Hey, the style imitation looks nice. =P

But giving away the files is not that easy, as all the user-data such email adresses and PMs are saved. If I'd have been am member I would be angry if someones gives that away freely. ^^ I only offered him this because he wanted to integrate the old posts.

Btw, I'll make a forward page to this forum on the old LFs.

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2006, 04:32:28 PM »
Ah, that's right.  I'd thought they might have been encrypted (I looked at databases on one of my dismantled forums and it was all garbled) but possibly not.  Argh security breaches!

And I don't know if I could get the posts integrated... may just be better to archive the old LF (on a different server, mind you) and make it read only or something.

I am working on the smilies now.  Thanks!

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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2006, 12:07:06 AM »
But giving away the files is not that easy, as all the user-data such email adresses and PMs are saved. If I'd have been am member I would be angry if someones gives that away freely. ^^ I only offered him this because he wanted to integrate the old posts.
Surely it's possible to seperate the personal information from the public posts.  I'd like to reverse the file format into something useable, because until Ksoft converts the posts, they are not available.  :cry:

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2006, 10:59:29 AM »
Only the password is encrypted. But Posts and Userdata are seperated. I could make the posts available to all.

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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2006, 12:26:51 PM »
I replaced now the old forum with a message to go here. It took a while to get damn perl working, but it finally did.

I guess this message will cause A LOT of people to register here. xD

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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2006, 04:30:10 PM »
I have returned from the grave.

Well, it seems each time we have a forum we have new ideas for it too, which give us some fresh topics (ie Level list).  Maybe that'll happen this time too.

An upload feature would be pretty awesome I think.  Maybe not necessary, but still great.

Ah...now, here's a good opportunity to change my avatar...

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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2006, 07:15:36 PM »
Surely it's possible to seperate the personal information from the public posts.  I'd like to reverse the file format into something useable, because until Ksoft converts the posts, they are not available.  :cry:
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Only the password is encrypted. But Posts and Userdata are seperated. I could make the posts available to all.
It would be really nice if that could be done.  :thumbsup: Are you going to do this?

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2006, 01:06:58 AM »
The old forum has now officially died.

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2006, 11:30:06 AM »
Get the old Posts here.

I can't help you with the file format because I don't know it. =P So you're on your own. If something is missing just tell me.

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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2006, 10:56:51 AM »
The old forum has now officially died.
RIP, to are old forum.

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2006, 02:04:26 PM »
Thanks for the old posts, Andi!

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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2006, 05:45:47 PM »
RIP, to are old forum.
I guess we have to just move on.

I'm starting to see a little similarity between us and our ridiculously adorable green-haired brethren. After all, there's been two migrations, and a lot of Forumers lost to the sweeping wilds of the internet with each one...

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2006, 05:55:31 PM »
Get the old Posts here.

I can't help you with the file format because I don't know it. =P So you're on your own. If something is missing just tell me.
I've made an ugly, but usable, front-end.  I'm going to have to add a BBCode parser.  :sick:

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2006, 07:56:40 PM »
RIP, to are old forum.
I guess we have to just move on.

I'm starting to see a little similarity between us and our ridiculously adorable green-haired brethren. After all, there's been two migrations, and a lot of Forumers lost to the sweeping wilds of the internet with each one...
i see.

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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2006, 07:15:11 PM »
@Mindless: Youre incredible!
@Andi: Thanks! I have the files on my disk now.

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2006, 06:45:09 PM »
Nothing proven yet, but I have suspicions that the reason these forums die is because everyone finally finds their way back to it and makes a bunch of posts and topics. The question:how do we stop that from happening to every forum? If that keeps happpening, then we'll just keep migrating forums until nobody knows which forum still works. :smiley: :huh:

Note: this isn't an invitation to become depressed and post depressing posts as I've seen some people(myself not exempted) do.

EDIT: why does it say beach lemming by my name? why am I not an Uber-lem, or a, a, umm...Really good title lem, like Emperor lem? :laugh:

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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2006, 01:06:57 AM »
Because of the ranking system I put in for fun.

BTW, oooooooh woe is me, these forums... waaah... *shot*
Waaaait.  The forums die because people post a lot..?  Am I missing something in what you said?

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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2006, 04:00:26 AM »
I think he means the posts and the (pages of!) topics take up all the space.  I have to say, there were tons of topics in off-topic discussion that needed deleted (there were about 8 pages of topics).

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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2006, 09:00:39 AM »
Nah. Posts took a lot of space, yes. But as even the "Forum is dead" page lags I now believe the server was crap.

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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2006, 08:45:42 PM »
The posts are actually stored in a rather simple format, and even all the posts on the old forum in a .rar archive only took up just over 2 megabytes. Plus, there were no attachments. Definitely wasn't storage concerns!

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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2006, 12:18:21 AM »
I'm still trying to see if I can get those posts converted.  And space will not be a problem.  My account has 1 GB space, and last time I checked (about 3 months ago, and before I cleaned out unnecessary fluff from the directory tree) I'd only used 100MB after 1.5 years of account use.

PS.  Dunno if anyone noticed (or if it works for normal users) but if you click "Additional Options..." in the posting page, you can attach files!  I've got text, pictures, .lvl's and .dat's usable.

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2006, 09:00:42 PM »
I somehow feel I missed to thank Andi and Mindless for the forum data resp. making it well readable. :thumbsup: Great! Have used it now for a couple of times.
Anyway, @Andi, I'd like to know, is it possible to get one's own private messages? Wouldn't it be possible to use select to select the messages where either the sender- or the reciever-id is the one of the resp. user from the database? It would be great if that could be done!
@Mindless, would it be possible to implement an additional search function? Would be really neat. EDIT: Just noticed, since I actually have the the data in txt format, I can easily search within it and then look it up in your front-end.
Btw, it is quite funny to me to read 'by Mindless and geoo89' in your Lemmings 3 file format description. It sounds to me as I would be something like an equal contributor while I actually only contributed one byte. ;) Anyway, thank you. (It's not that I noticed that only now, I just forgot about it when I actually wanted to post that note.)

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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2006, 12:18:48 PM »
@Mindless, would it be possible to implement an additional search function? Would be really neat. EDIT: Just noticed, since I actually have the the data in txt format, I can easily search within it and then look it up in your front-end.
Yup, it's possible,  but it may (or may not) take a while.  I haven't got much free time right now.

Btw, it is quite funny to me to read 'by Mindless and geoo89' in your Lemmings 3 file format description. It sounds to me as I would be something like an equal contributor while I actually only contributed one byte. ;) Anyway, thank you. (It's not that I noticed that only now, I just forgot about it when I actually wanted to post that note.)
Every byte is important, and there's still one we know nothing about.  :sad: